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Nishant Kheterpal

问题 ID:

16051552

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City of Ann Arbor

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Ann Arbor

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于 2024-02-13

服务请求 ID:

454843

服务请求 ID:

454729

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Broadway light does not recognize bicycles: when I wait at the light on my bike to turn left from Broadway onto Plymouth Rd (west, towards Downtown), the light does not change. Please re-time this light or add sensors for bicycles.

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已确认 City of Ann Arbor (官方验证)

Thank you for your A2 Fix It request, #454729. Your request is important to us and will be prioritized and addressed based on the overall availability of city resources. Please note: If the nature of your request is urgent, such as water emergencies, please check Report a Problem - A2 Fix It for phone numbers to contact us. A2 Fix It is for non-urgent, non-emergency issues and is monitored during weekday business hours only. Your patience is appreciated.

2024-02-13 · 标记 已标记
Friendlyneighborhoodcomplainer (注册用户)

Correct vehicle sensors do not see bicycles.
Just run the light like all the other bicycles.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Generye (注册用户)

Go push the pedestrian walk button.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

He’s in the LEFT TURN LANE, trying to turn left. What a genius.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

He’s also trying to be a law-abiding vehicle operator, which is what generye usually demands of cyclists—except when treating a bicycle like any other vehicle is inconvenient, that is!

All vehicles are equal but some vehicles are more equal than others? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Northeaster-AA (注册用户)

Let it go Rob...this isn't Facebook.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

Generye treats it like Facebook, and as long as his behavior is tolerated, I’ll return in kind, thanks.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Generye (注册用户)

It’s a public forum Rob. Deal with it.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Generye (注册用户)

Rob: do you want the city to spend millions so that bicycles can be recognized or are there much simpler solutions? Crossing the street, then push the pedestrian crossing buttons and utilizing the sidewalk for a short distance is an effective and cheap solution.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

I’ll take the city expanding its bike infrastructure over simplistic non-solutions any day. Thanks for asking.

2024-02-14 · 标记 已标记
Nishant Kheterpal (注册用户)

Hi all, I wasn't going to weigh in here but I felt obligated to mention that I commute on a cargo e-bike that weighs 75 pounds and is 3-4 feet wide. With me on it, it's 250+ lb moving at 15-20mph so I promise you don't want me on your sidewalk while you're walking your dog or going for a run :)

2024-02-15 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

Good to know, Nishant. I think the city has promised to add sensors for bikes at various lights, but needless to say it is a work in progress. Thanks for pointing out this particular location. Southbound State at Stimson needs a bike sensor as well. Maybe I’ll follow your lead.

2024-02-15 · 标记 已标记
Marcus (注册用户)

Gene doesn't even understand what the problem is that needs solving.

2024-02-15 · 标记 已标记
Generye (注册用户)

Oh Marcus, give me some credit. Turn signals don’t recognize bicycles as they are metal sensing and the bike doesn’t contain enough metal to trigger the sensor. Digging up all the turn lanes to install better sensors is a waste of funds to resolve a problem the is insignificant compared to other issues.

2024-02-15 · 标记 已标记
City of Ann Arbor (官方验证)

We do not have a detection system at this intersection for bicycles at this time.

2024-02-17 · 标记 已标记
关闭 City of Ann Arbor (官方验证)

Your request has been acknowledged and/or addressed to the best of staff's ability. A more detailed description of action taken by staff, if available, is provided in the comments above. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

2024-02-17 · 标记 已标记
Reopened Nishant Kheterpal (注册用户)

@City of Ann Arbor: what is the recommended action for bicyclists at this intersection turning left, then? Is it to use the sidewalk?

2024-02-18 · 标记 已标记
已确认 City of Ann Arbor (官方验证)

Thank you for your A2 Fix It request, #454843. Your request is important to us and will be prioritized and addressed based on the overall availability of city resources. Please note: If the nature of your request is urgent, such as water emergencies, please check Report a Problem - A2 Fix It for phone numbers to contact us. A2 Fix It is for non-urgent, non-emergency issues and is monitored during weekday business hours only. Your patience is appreciated.

2024-02-18 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

Good question! If the city doesn’t solve the problem, then they’re implicitly encouraging you to become a reluctant scofflaw.

2024-02-19 · 标记 已标记
Generye (注册用户)

Sidewalk use is ok and within the law.

2024-02-19 · 标记 已标记
Seth (注册用户)

I usually go with a Copenhagen left. It can take longer, but I don't like sitting in left turn lanes.

2024-03-05 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

But if the same sensor that doesn’t recognize bikes turning left also doesn’t recognize bikes going straight, isn’t one left with the same dilemma?

2024-03-05 · 标记 已标记
Seth (注册用户)

Well, yes, I'm either waiting for a car to trigger the light or running the red. It's a lousy system. I prefer regular timed lights which are less "efficient", but more equitable without spending more money on traffic controls (which are already bleeding us dry so we can "save time").

2024-03-05 · 标记 已标记
Generye (注册用户)

Just be like most other bike riders and ignore the laws. I see bike riders blowing through stop signs and red lights swerving through parking lots just to maintain momentum. God forbid motor vehicle drivers do this.

2024-03-05 · 标记 已标记
Rob Utterback (注册用户)

Generye just told cyclists to ignore the laws. I’ll note that for future reference.

2024-03-05 · 标记 已标记
Generye (注册用户)

Just pointing out the obvious I have witnessed around the city. Don’t be a shmuck

2024-03-05 · 标记 已标记

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