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Nishant Kheterpal

Issue ID:

16051552

Submitted To:

City of Ann Arbor

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Ann Arbor

Reported:

on 02/13/2024

Service Request ID:

454843

Service Request ID:

454729

Description

Broadway light does not recognize bicycles: when I wait at the light on my bike to turn left from Broadway onto Plymouth Rd (west, towards Downtown), the light does not change. Please re-time this light or add sensors for bicycles.

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Acknowledged City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)

Thank you for your A2 Fix It request, #454729. Your request is important to us and will be prioritized and addressed based on the overall availability of city resources. Please note: If the nature of your request is urgent, such as water emergencies, please check Report a Problem - A2 Fix It for phone numbers to contact us. A2 Fix It is for non-urgent, non-emergency issues and is monitored during weekday business hours only. Your patience is appreciated.

02/13/2024 · Flag Flagged
Friendlyneighborhoodcomplainer (Registered User)

Correct vehicle sensors do not see bicycles.
Just run the light like all the other bicycles.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Generye (Registered User)

Go push the pedestrian walk button.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

He’s in the LEFT TURN LANE, trying to turn left. What a genius.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

He’s also trying to be a law-abiding vehicle operator, which is what generye usually demands of cyclists—except when treating a bicycle like any other vehicle is inconvenient, that is!

All vehicles are equal but some vehicles are more equal than others? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Northeaster-AA (Registered User)

Let it go Rob...this isn't Facebook.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

Generye treats it like Facebook, and as long as his behavior is tolerated, I’ll return in kind, thanks.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Generye (Registered User)

It’s a public forum Rob. Deal with it.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Generye (Registered User)

Rob: do you want the city to spend millions so that bicycles can be recognized or are there much simpler solutions? Crossing the street, then push the pedestrian crossing buttons and utilizing the sidewalk for a short distance is an effective and cheap solution.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

I’ll take the city expanding its bike infrastructure over simplistic non-solutions any day. Thanks for asking.

02/14/2024 · Flag Flagged
Nishant Kheterpal (Registered User)

Hi all, I wasn't going to weigh in here but I felt obligated to mention that I commute on a cargo e-bike that weighs 75 pounds and is 3-4 feet wide. With me on it, it's 250+ lb moving at 15-20mph so I promise you don't want me on your sidewalk while you're walking your dog or going for a run :)

02/15/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

Good to know, Nishant. I think the city has promised to add sensors for bikes at various lights, but needless to say it is a work in progress. Thanks for pointing out this particular location. Southbound State at Stimson needs a bike sensor as well. Maybe I’ll follow your lead.

02/15/2024 · Flag Flagged
Marcus (Registered User)

Gene doesn't even understand what the problem is that needs solving.

02/15/2024 · Flag Flagged
Generye (Registered User)

Oh Marcus, give me some credit. Turn signals don’t recognize bicycles as they are metal sensing and the bike doesn’t contain enough metal to trigger the sensor. Digging up all the turn lanes to install better sensors is a waste of funds to resolve a problem the is insignificant compared to other issues.

02/15/2024 · Flag Flagged
City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)

We do not have a detection system at this intersection for bicycles at this time.

02/17/2024 · Flag Flagged
Closed City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)

Your request has been acknowledged and/or addressed to the best of staff's ability. A more detailed description of action taken by staff, if available, is provided in the comments above. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

02/17/2024 · Flag Flagged
Reopened Nishant Kheterpal (Registered User)

@City of Ann Arbor: what is the recommended action for bicyclists at this intersection turning left, then? Is it to use the sidewalk?

02/18/2024 · Flag Flagged
Acknowledged City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)

Thank you for your A2 Fix It request, #454843. Your request is important to us and will be prioritized and addressed based on the overall availability of city resources. Please note: If the nature of your request is urgent, such as water emergencies, please check Report a Problem - A2 Fix It for phone numbers to contact us. A2 Fix It is for non-urgent, non-emergency issues and is monitored during weekday business hours only. Your patience is appreciated.

02/18/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

Good question! If the city doesn’t solve the problem, then they’re implicitly encouraging you to become a reluctant scofflaw.

02/19/2024 · Flag Flagged
Generye (Registered User)

Sidewalk use is ok and within the law.

02/19/2024 · Flag Flagged
Seth (Registered User)

I usually go with a Copenhagen left. It can take longer, but I don't like sitting in left turn lanes.

03/05/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

But if the same sensor that doesn’t recognize bikes turning left also doesn’t recognize bikes going straight, isn’t one left with the same dilemma?

03/05/2024 · Flag Flagged
Seth (Registered User)

Well, yes, I'm either waiting for a car to trigger the light or running the red. It's a lousy system. I prefer regular timed lights which are less "efficient", but more equitable without spending more money on traffic controls (which are already bleeding us dry so we can "save time").

03/05/2024 · Flag Flagged
Generye (Registered User)

Just be like most other bike riders and ignore the laws. I see bike riders blowing through stop signs and red lights swerving through parking lots just to maintain momentum. God forbid motor vehicle drivers do this.

03/05/2024 · Flag Flagged
Rob Utterback (Registered User)

Generye just told cyclists to ignore the laws. I’ll note that for future reference.

03/05/2024 · Flag Flagged
Generye (Registered User)

Just pointing out the obvious I have witnessed around the city. Don’t be a shmuck

03/05/2024 · Flag Flagged

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