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Sat for 4 minutes at red light to turn South onto Stephenson during rush hour; intersection is marked at no turn on red. Either do away with no turn on red or change the timing.
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Sat for 4 minutes at red light to turn South onto Stephenson during rush hour; intersection is marked at no turn on red. Either do away with no turn on red or change the timing.
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MTL (Guest)
Road Commission (Guest)
MTL:
The feds help to fund these signals because they have been documented to improve traffic flow and motorist safety. Independent studies by U of M, MSU and the University of Detroit Mercy have documented these benefits. Please see the FAST-TRAC page of the Road Commission for Oakland County (RCOC) Web site for more informaiton. Not sure how you conclude that "everyone" agrees. Have you done scientific studies of driver response? Have you done studies of actual traffic flow and crash history? These universities have done such studies. Check out the FAST-TRAC page on the Road Commission's Web site for more information: http://www.rcocweb.org/Commuters/FAST-TRAC.aspx
- Road Commission for Oakland County
MTL (Guest)
Road Commission (Guest)
MTL:
Some (many?) of the timing issues raised on this site refer to traditional "fixed-time" traffic signals. One of the benefits of the "smart" signals is that they automatically readjust their continuously in real time to best address the traffic that is present. The traditional fixed-time signals are adjusted every 5 to 10 years, when the Road Commission is able to conduct a traffic study to determine current traffic patterns (or when there is a malfunction, which is typically when the reports are filed here).
That's not to say there are never problems with the smart signals. One of the most common problems we have is that the phone lines that we rely on for communications between the computer at the intersection and the regional computer will go down. Getting the phone company to repair the lines is often a time consuming process, and the signals fall back into a fixed-time mode until the communications can be fixed. We are working on converting some of the signals to wireless communications to avoid this problem, but that requires funding.
Nonetheless, we are convinced that our smart signals are saving a considerable amount of time for motorists by generallly ensuring that the intersections equipped with the technology are as efficient as possible.
By the way, the best way to report a problem with any traffic signal, and ensure the fastest response possible from the Road Commission is to contact us directly. We are not able to regularly monitor this Web site or the numerous other sites at which people can post concerns. We can be reached toll free at 877-858-4804 or via our Website, www.rcocweb.org (click on "contact us").
Thanks,
Road Commission for Oakland County
MTL (Guest)
this link you provide "U of M FAST-TRAC studies" leads to a page that can not be found...the "ITS America" link did show me that Mike Rogers is probably the one benefiting the most from ITS, and lots of research here. I searched "Oakland County MI" and found no pertinent documents. In fact it would probably just be simpler if you could just provide a list of the reference documents that were used to persuade RCOC to begin using these systems back in the late 80's early 90's. I imagine there was a trial period and a follow up study was done and the name of that study would also be helpful. I know somebody told you those universities did those studies but how do they define success? I have been driving through these systems since 1992 and my personal observation is they are not working in the manner we were told they would work...at it's best the system does no better than timed lights. Now Macomb county is going to them and they have already created a mess on Mound and 15 mile roads. What I want to see is proof that moving from any point "A" to any point "B" through a traffic management system takes less time while being safe relative to making the same trip with a strictly timed system of traffic control.
MTL (Guest)
Road Commission (Guest)
MTL:
Since we cannot attach files to these responses, I cannot attach the U of M and MSU studies referenced below (note we did not say the studies were at the link, but that additional information about the FAST-TRAC system was at the link). However, if you contact RCOC via our Web site (www.rcocweb.org -- click on "contact us") or by phone, toll-free at 877-858-4804, we can provide the studies to you.
Road Commission for Oakland County
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troy motorist (Guest)
Everytime I drive through troy I get stopped at what seems like every traffic light. This is due to poorly timed lights. This is lowering my gas milage which is causing damage to the environment. This is causing unnecessary wear and tear on my vehicle. Whomever is responsible for traffic lights in troy needs to be immediately fired/let the townfolk throw rocks at him/her.
I dont know anything about timing traffic lights, but I KNOW I could do better than this.. really stressful system I cant believe these "people" have the audacity to accept out tax dollars with this garbage system they have in place to serve US THE TAXPAYERS FIX THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS.