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Every year about this time, the city puts back out the in-road crosswalk signs. Every year, instead of centering the signs on the fogline, as specified in the MUTCD, the city puts them in the bike lane. Every year, I complain and nothing happens. So, I'm being proactive this year. Please remind your crews that it's illegal to put those in the bike lanes. They belong centered on the fog line, not blocking the bike lane. The fixit request is to fix the broken process by reminding those crews not to do it.
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Acknowledged City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)
City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)
Thank you for voicing your concerns regarding the placement of the pedestrian gateway treatments. Crews have been made aware of your concern.
The City's standard practice is to install the in-street signs on the bike lane, but we do understand that the installation creates a pinch point that may feel uncomfortable. This discomfort is what makes the devices so effective at increasing pedestrian yielding. The bicycle lane retains enough width for a standard bicycle, bicycle with trailer, or cargo bicycle to operate although the location may feel uncomfortable.
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Reopened KJMClark (Registered User)
Acknowledged City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)
City of Ann Arbor (Verified Official)
KJMClark (Registered User)
So are you saying that it's standard practice to install the sign centered on the bike lane separation line, as called for in the MUTCD? I agree that when properly centered, the base will encroach about an inch to either side of that line. That is very different from what was stated before, and would be entirely appropriate. However, the base should not intrude into the bike lane any more than it does into the adjacent regular lane. This fixit request is due to past experiences in which the sign was placed entirely or predominantly intruding into the bike lane, which is not in compliance with the wording in the MUTCD.
Please note that AASHTO calls for a *minimum* of 3' of usable space for cyclists, not including the gutter pan, which is appropriate for a bicycle without a trailer, but insufficient for a cyclist with a trailer. That 3' includes a foot and a half of wobble space to either side of the bicycle's wheels when operated in the center. There aren't supposed to be any obstacles in that 3' space. If there will be obstacles, we're supposed to use less than the minimum recommended bike lane width.
If this response is verifying that the city's standard practice is to 1) center the sign on the bike lane separation line, and 2) where possible ensure at least 3' of usable bike lane space from the gutter pan seam to the center of the bike lane line, or any obstruction, and crews will be reminded of this, this request is resolved.
KJMClark (Registered User)
KJMClark (Registered User)