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The Pedestrian lights indicating you can cross Manning Drive are white with the man walking. However, drivers entering the intersection to make a left turn have a green light. They do not look for pedestrians, only other cars. Why can't all the auto traffic lights be red while the pedestrian lights are white? I have almost been hit 3 times at this intersection and the Paul Hardin/Manning intersection. The last time was Monday at 2:30pm. It is very dangerous for students and employees. Thanks, Ann
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Town of Chapel Hill (La Caddeeyey Rasmi ah)
La qiray Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
By law, turning traffic on green must yield to pedestrians, except if an green arrow points in that direction.
The pedestrian signal crossing Manning turns white 5 seconds ahead of the vehicular signals, letting pedestrians establish presence in the crosswalk so turning vehicles can see and yield to pedestrians.
NCDOT will not allow all-red pedestrian phases along Manning drive.
Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
La xidhay Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
The Town posted additional signage reminding drivers to yield to pedestrians for either turn.
For any further questions or comments, you may contact the Town at (919)969-5100.
Reopened Ann L (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Thank you for your quick response.
La qiray Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
The Town will review signage. As this is a metal pole with mast-arm, the Town needs to conduct a windload analysis to determine if the signs can be mounted.
The Town will also review Lead Pedestrian Interval (LPI), where the pedestrian phase turns before the parallel vehicles get a green. The Town will review the intersection for car/pedestrian collisions.
Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Ann L (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Ann L (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
CindyH (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Karen (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
dpw (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
KM (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
This intersection is particularly worse now considering the other "No Turn on Red" signs that are up just down the street. I use this intersection multiple times per day to drop off someone and I cringe every time I get ready to turn because of how incredibly dangerous it is. There really does not ever appear to be any lead time for pedestrians crossing before vehicle traffic, and if there is, it is not enough to make it safe with so many drivers attempting to turn in any of the directions.
Another major problem with the setup of the intersection is that the Sun blocks the view of pedestrians as it can shine directly in your eyes for a good portion of the year from the exact direction where those pedestrians are entering the walkway as you are about to turn.
Adam Carter (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
I've been lucky to have avoided being hit 3 times myself, including one time where I had my hands resting on the hood of the car that just noticed me at the last second.
Note that in the morning sunshine is in the eyes of the drivers coming down Emergency Drive to Manning, and they are likely exiting the Cancer Center or the ER (possibly with their mind on other things).
A solution needs to be put in place ASAP to avoid further serious injuries, or worse.
GinaF (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
An early comment indicates "The pedestrian signal crossing Manning turns white 5 seconds ahead of the vehicular signals, letting pedestrians establish presence in the crosswalk so turning vehicles can see and yield to pedestrians.". I have confirmed, on multiple occasions, that his is not true. There are other intersections that do this, but not Manning and Emergency Drive/Harden intersection.
I find it discouraging that I and many others have almost been hit and now someone is seriously injured, but nothing has been done, to date, to address this issue. This is an extremely busy intersection.
I look forward to a resolution. Some things that seem to reduce or eliminate this issues elsewhere on campus include:
1) A pedestrian bridge
2) Pedestrians cross with NO left or right turn traffic options (left turn is a green arrow along with same direction traffic and right turns only on green, with the opposite directions going at different times)
3) A several second delay to allow pedestrians to begin to cross ahead of the traffic lights turning
If there is anything we can do as users of this intersection, please let us know.
dpw (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
...."NCDOT will not allow all-red pedestrian phases along Manning drive."
Really? Why?
How many people being hospitalized is NCDOT comfortable with?
Kristine W (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
As others have previously expressed, I have just narrowly avoided being hit by a car at this intersection more than once. It is extremely dangerous, and something MUST be done. It seems most logical to me to install a green arrow or switch to all reds when pedestrians are crossing.
We have the same situation up the road at the intersection of Manning and East Drive (Mason Farm). The walk signal across Manning turns to the white "walk" man and the same time the light is green for those traveling on East Drive. Turning left from East Drive on to Manning is part of many bus routes, and the vast majority of vehicles traveling that way are turning left or right; not going straight into the hospital. The problem here is exasperated by the fact that many pedestrians are crossing to catch the bus. That light takes FOREVER to change, so people are anxious and often running as soon as it says "walk" so that they don't miss their bus. This intersection should also be evaluated please. People are getting injured and it is NOT okay. Please seriously consider taking action to keep everyone safe.
J (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Leading Pedestrian Interval has been approved by NCDOT.
NCDOT has also investigated the structural loading for the metal pole and mast-arm. Due to the structural integrity of the metal poles, the Town needs to strategically place signs overhead. The Town needs to maintain a factor of safety for structural loading.
The Town will post no less than two signs for the Emergency Rd approach, reminding drivers that (by law) turning traffic must yield to pedestrians (R10-15 sign) on a circular green signal.
The LPI and signs shall be installed by next week.
Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
To clarify any early inquiries:
Leading Pedestrian Interval (LPI) is when the pedestrian WALK displays before the green of its parallel vehicular movement. The vehicular green is delayed while pedestrians initially establish presence in the crosswalk. This provides advance warning for drivers turning at the intersection.
All-red pedestrian phase, or the pedestrian scramble (similar to the pedestrian movement at Columbia and Cameron) would not be permitted along Manning Dr. This is due to a different intersection and corridor characteristics. This is not the same as Leading Pedestrian Interval.
The Town makes an effort to place LPI at intersections (approved by NCDOT) where vehicle-pedestrian conflict can pose a risk. Any requests for LPI can be made through SeeClickFix or emailed at traffic@townofchapelhill.org.
Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
LL (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
La xidhay Chapel Hill Traffic/Signals Engineer (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
The Town has programmed LPI and installed signs to notify drivers of pedestrians.
The Town will also review other countermeasures and coordination plans to improve the level of service.
Ann L (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
GinaF (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)