These two crossover signals both have flash (or night) schedules. The signals operate Monday to Friday, 6 am to 11 pm and Sat & Sun, 8 am to 10 pm. Crossover signals typically operate 24/7 and drivers can turn left on red. The signals are also kept operating to regulate the traffic that approaches the main intersection (in this case - Rochester & Long Lake). These signals are also coordinated with the main intersection to keep traffic moving. We will field check the intersections to make sure they are operating properly.

- Road Commission for Oakland County

Totally agree - why do you have to drive 1/4 mile to turn left.

The red lights on Long Lake, between Livernois and Crooks are absolutely unnecessary. In a time when we should be looking to conserve fuel, we are burning more by the constant stop-an-go action of three (3) lights within a mile. Two of these lights should be flashing yellow all the time.

To the "Road Commission". I totally disagree that you need the turnaround lights just east and just west of Rochester Rd on Long Lake Rd., going from 6am to 11pm Mon-Fri, and from 8am-10pm Sat and Sun. This is CRAZY. You can go to church on a Sunday morning and get stopped by the red light at the turnaround just east of Rochester at 8:00am, when there is probably 1 car every 30-60 seconds coming through the turnaround. Same thing at 8-10pm on weekends. I go up and down these stretches several times almost every day and these lights are absolutely, positively impeding traffic. If I had to set the times I would have the lights at these turnarounds going Mon-Fri from 6am-9am and 3pm-7pm; and between these times it would be a blinking red for the turnaround traffic and blinking yellow for the Long Lake traffic. On the weekends they would be set to work from 10am-6pm; otherwise blinking red for turnaround traffic and blinking yellow for Long Lake traffic. Please, please, please won't you consider these times even just for a one or two month trial period. I have lived in Troy since 1992, and I presently work at the Timberland Office Complex on Crooks and Long Lake, and have worked there since 1990. It has never been worse trying to drive through Troy, and yet many of the office buildings around me are now only 1/2 or less full, so I know that traffic can't possibly be heavier now. If you could calculate the gas that is wasted by all motorists driving in Troy over the course of a month because of having to sit and idle at these turnaround lights during un-busy times of the day (i.e., when one or two cars might come through a turnaround while you are sitting at a red light there), it would be stunning. These lights are IMPEDING TRAFFIC, not managing it. I have three grown children who visit every week and I would not want to do anything that creates an unsafe condition for them as they use Long Lake to get to my house. But my kids and my neighbors all say the same thing: "what the heck is going on with these turnaround lights; what are they thinking!." I stand by my assertion that the road commission is actually impeding the flow of traffic with these lights. I urge you, for the love of God, please reconsider a trial period with the times I have suggested. If it would help to discuss this with me please don't hesitate to contact me by email. Thank you for your time and consideration of this important (but maddening) situation.

The turn around light just East of Rochester Rd. on Long Lake is still causing unnecessary delays for the people living East of the light off of Long Lake. This light simply does not need to be operational all day. A blinking yellow for the Long Lake traffic Mon-Fri after 8pm would work fine. On the weekends, the light would only need to be fully operational between about 10am-6pm. The Oakland County Road Commission is simply overregulating traffic with these turnaround lights. I can't even begin to think how much gas motorists driving around in Troy are wasting sitting at these turnaround lights. A big disappointment for us long time Troy residents.

The turn around light is still unnecessary. The Oakland County Road Commission is simply over regulating traffic with this light and causing unnecessary traffic stoppages on Long Lake Rd at early morning and early evening hours on the weekends, and during early evening hours on weekdays. I am not the only one living off of Long Lake Rd. that feels this way.

The turn around lights are

The turn around lights are still operating at times that they are not needed and are impeding traffic up and down Long Lake on the East and West sides of Rochester Rd. This is just crazy. I have given times in one of my prior posts that you should consider just making the turn around lights for the Long Lake traffic blinking yellow lights. Those of us who live off of Long Lake Rd. near Rochester Rd. are constantly stopped at these lights when there is virtually no traffic coming through the turnarounds. Even going to church at 8:30am on a Sunday morning, when there is probably only 1-2 cars coming through the turn around every 60 seconds, the Long Lake traffic will hit red lights. Many, many, many times I have hit red lights at these turn arounds on the weekends at early morning hours and early evening hours, where no traffic at all comes through the turn around lanes. In a day when everyone is trying to maximize fuel economy of their vehicles, I can't even imagine how much fuel is wasted each month just idling at red lijghts on Long Lake at these turnarounds, while maybe one car comes through the turnaround. The Oakland County Road Commission has succeeded in making this an absolutely miserable stretch of road to drive.

Agree with original poster. A stop sign would be sufficient for the majority of the day for the little traffic that uses the turnaround. The thousands of thru traffic vehicles stop for absolutely nothin most of the day. Traffic study very much needed here!

The turn around lights on Long Lake near Rochester Rd are still operating at early morning weekend hours (before about 9:30am) and during evening weekend hours (after about 8pm) when they simply are not needed. During the weekdays, these turnaround lights could be made to be blinking yellow lights for Long Lake traffic after 8:30pm. If members of the Oakland County Road Commission who determine the operation of these turn around lights actually lived here along Long Lake by Rochester Rd,., and had to put up with what us Troy residents are putting up with, things would be different; the timing on these lights would be modified. I've lived here for 23 years and I can't believe how miserable it is now to drive up and down Long Lake.

East/west traffic would flow much easier without the long turn around delays. Traffic at Rochester clears and empties while a long line of people still sit at the turn around light, only to get stuck at the red light on Rochester when they finally get there. THAT is what causes the backups. And all that to allow 2-3 cars thru the turnaround :/