If you shoveled in the first place you would've got your mail.

You missed the point. This issue refers to shovelled condos. Read the title.

Here's a picture of the "shoveled" property in question.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but if you can see tire treads on the ground, the property can't really be clear of snow and ice, can it?

PS The photo showing the snowy sidewalk is irrelevant as the driveway into the condo parking lot is clear and the condo mailbox is INSIDE the parking lot area.

Both of those pictures show property that looks as though it should be plowed/shoveled by a management company. I think it is unfair that the residents don't get mail because their property manager did a poor job removing the snow. Can this be discussed with the management company? My situation is different; my husband and I shovel the sidewalk in front of our place, and we often have to do our neighbors', too. We're the only ones who use salt/snow melt, so we often miss mail delivery because the surrounding sidewalk area is icy. We've tried to keep the sidewalks clear, but it is frustrating not to get mail and have the Post Office expect us to walk over there (on icy sidewalks) to get it. Maybe the USPS should buy its mail people YakTrax?

I'm not sure if Kate meant i or L St, but unfortunately I don't deliver either of those streets, so I can't speak for the carrier who decided not to make deliveries. I can, however, let you know that it is the policy of USPS to protect their carriers. At the end of every day, management will ask every carrier if there were any deliveries that were unsafe to make, and they record the addresses. If the carrier wasn't able to get pictures, one of the bosses will go out and look at the property themselves. It is the company's policy that the carriers should not risk injury on property that hasn't been maintained.

Now, I have over 700 deliveries on my route. Each time it snows, I'd say that I have between 12 and 15 properties that have an issue with uncleared sidewalks/walkways - on the first day. By the second day, it's down to about 4 or 5. THIS property was the only one on my route to go WEEKS without having a clear path to the mailbox. I agree 100% that it is the management company's responsibility to take care of this. Unfortunately, the property is still iced over regardless of who is responsible for it. Once the temperatures are in a deep freeze, throwing a layer of sand on 3 inches of solid ice doesn't do anything to help the situation.

So apparently my name is mud in Southie now. Somehow I doubt that. I've had this route for 4 years, and the only complaint I've had is this situation - where the property is unsafe to walk. I've also seen the city leaving numerous citations at this address for not maintaining its walkways - so this isn't a case of the USPS being unreasonable - though I'm sure opinions will vary on that.

kara, i deliver Jason's route on his day off and i withheld your mail on many days as well. I am not going to risk my health by walking on sheets of ice just because the whole condo development is lazy and cant take the time to clear the sidewalks. For future notice, I hope we dont have the same problem this year.

let it be known you are responsible to shovel in front and on the side if on a corner 3' wide stop be lazy customers

As a safety captain for the usps I stand behind Jasons decision 100 percent it clearly states in the cards that we send out to have your property cleared for safety reasons. If a carrier chooses to walk on the ice or snow and gets injuried it then becomes an issue for the letter carrier. Not only is he going to be out injured its now his responsibility for walking on it and therefore that could lead to disciplinary actions and loss of wagers. Are you Kate going to pay his rent and bills? You are not the only one who didn't receive delivery and its not just in Southie. People don't realize the hazards we face each day. So are you saying its ok for us to walk into a hallway where a pitbull is present with out the owner present and we should take that risk that we are not gonna get bit. There are numerous reasons why we shut off delivery to addresses, the carriers safety is our top priority not your junk mail for the day. And I want to add that this issue was addressed higher up as far as the local politician and each one back Jason decision. So maybe you should think of the safety of others before you jump to conclussions. There is nothing personal behind this, just everyones safety

I also stand behind Jason and his choice to stay safe their are safe alternatives my neighborhood all put a crate with something heavy to weigh it down in a safe place marked MAIL so our poor mailmen didnt have to risk their saftelt climbing banks of ridiculous snow . this is New England and it happens here if ya can't deal with snow removal move to Florida......

No, I'd rather not receive junk mail at all.

Regardless, I now receive all of my bills via email, except for my boat slip dues, which is sent to me by USPS only in the summer.

The only necessary mail I receive in the winter is my annual country club dues. What if I don't receive it in a timely fashion? They know I'm good for it.

Peace out.

P.S. Please stop creating fake accounts to support Lazy Jason. You should be doing ACTUAL postal duties NOT posting to random internet sites.

I think the mail carriers who voiced their opinions here have made it clear, especially with the pictures, that the real issue here is mail delivery to residences where the snow has not been adequately removed. If you read my comments, not Kara's, you will see that I am a reasonable person and understand both sides of the issue. I have not jumped to any conclusions here, so please read my comments carefully before you accuse me of doing that. And no, I'm not in a rush to get my junk mail (thank you for also jumping to that conclusion). When I called my local post office to inquire about the lack of mail delivery, I actually spoke with my mail carrier directly, and he explained his stance as it applied to my situation (which again is not Kara's situation—if you read what I wrote, you would know that). I have never said that the mail carriers should risk their well-being in order to deliver the mail. I wouldn't want to walk across either of those properties as pictured below. My husband and I go the extra mile to keep our portion of the sidewalk clear for many reasons, and enabling delivery of our mail ranks at the top. Because we are situated between two buildings whose residents are not as careful, we end up missing out on mail delivery through no fault of our own. There are times when the sidewalks appear to be passable for the complete length of the block and we still don't get mail, so that is what I commented on as being frustrating. Again, I thought I was participating in a thread discussing shoveled sidewalks.

With all the money you have, (country club memberships and boat slip dues) you would think that you could pay someone to clear that area instead of complaining about the mailman all the time.

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I just think this is ridiculous that it is now almost july, 6 months after the whole issue and u r still complaining...if I posted all the pics that were taking over the winter for the properties that were shut off I do believe most of the people on here would agree with us like Kate did. If it is such an issue then either move your deliver location, get a po box or stop being a lazy yuppie who expects everything handed to them and shovel the sidewalk yourself

Sorry I meant Kate not Kara...hit the wrong letter on the keyboard...thank you Kate for agreeing about our safety

Kara, has it crossed your mind that perhaps these posts that agree with Jason actually DO agree with him and are all understanding that walking across certain ice-covered sidewalks/walkways/streets can be treacherous and dangerous? Just because you seem to have a lot of time to re-post on this thread doesn't mean that all people sit around "creating fake accounts" to agree with "Lazy" Jason. Considering Jason works 6 days a week and walks 8 hours a day, I think "lazy" is the last thing that would describe him. Maybe you should try doing his job for a day and see how you feel at the end of it. These mailpeople provide everyone with a service. You should spend less of your time complaining about the "laziness" and more time appreciating what these people do for the public as a whole.

Hi Everyone - Let me first state that I am a Letter Carrier and did work with Jason. I actually had his route for two years. I too would shut off delivey to this condo development. Letter Carriers are to have a safe walkway from one address to another. This development has a long sidewalk that has to be cleared and then you enter into a driveway and the boxes are in the driveway. This sidewalk was never cleared then and neither was the driveway. When the tenants drove in and out their tires would then be leaving tracks of ice for me to walk on. I am sorry if the tenants feel that Jason or anyone else should walk on the ice but I am not going to risk injury because someone does not want to clear the snow and ice. Putting sand or salt on two or more inches of compacted ice does not help. I have a family to help support and go home to and I want to return to them healthy. If the management company will not clear the pathways properly then Kara could use some exercise for a different part of her body besides the fingers. Either that or withhold condo dues until they do clear the area. By the way, I am going to go and thank God that I don't have Kara as a neighbor - I am sure this is not the only thing that she rants about. Sorry Jason!

Hmm. The mail should have been delivered because the driveway was clear? How do you expect the Carrier to reach the driveway? Are you saying you expect him to walk in the street with the plows and the #11 bus? Yes, the photo of that sidewalk sure is "immaterial".
Stop creating "false accounts' when we should be performing actual Postal duties? Ever hear of coffee break or lunch break? Also, why are our accounts "false", but yours is "real"? Are you somehow more important than the rest of us?
Jason should put on his BIg Boy Pants and do his job? Why don't you put on your Big Girl pants and get your Condo Asso. to hire a plower for the winter months?
Jason should do his job? Jason IS doing his job to the expectations, rules and regulations of his employer - WHO YOU ARE NOT. If Jason was injured trying to deliver your mail, he would be prone to catch disciplanary action and administrative action from his employer, the USPS. That would be in addition to the pain and suffering he might realize from being injured while trying to deliver your mail in an unsafe manner. Jason is not accountable to you. Jason answers to the USPS management.
Kara, you and fellow resident, "B", have attacked Jason online and in person. You tried going through Congressman Lynch's office. Lynch called the Postmaster, the Postmaster called the 02127 station. The 02127 station sent the photos of your property to the Postmaster. The Postmaster sided with Jason. The Postmaster sent the photos to Congressman Lynch's office. He sided with Jason. Jason was instructed to continue to hold your mail. Yet, you still complain.
You label him "Lazy". Who died and left you God? What gives you the right to label anyone? How did you get to be so self-important that your mail delivery is more important than the risk it exposes another person to?
Go look in the mirror - has the person looking back at you done everything they could to help resolve this problem, instead of exacerbating it?
Time to get over yourself, Kara. Maybe you were Southie Royalty once upon a time. Get used to your new status - you are NOBODY SPECIAL.

To Kate - thank you for being reasonable and willing to keep an open mind. As for the Yak Trax, they might be a problem in people's hallways. The treads might damage floors, etc.

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It is June 22nd and this is still an issue - just think - the days are getting shorter and winter will be coming in 6 mos - the driveway will not be shoveled AGAIN - and this issue will be front and center AGAIN - At least Kara has made such a fuss that she has guaranteed that management of the South Boston office will never let anyone deliver to that address if it is not cleared. Hopefully all her neighbors will clear their sidewalks so she can walk to get her mail. Happy Summer.

I stumbled upon this page, and cannot believe my eyes. Kara clearly suffers from self-deception, and does not realize her role in the problem. When no one agrees with you, at what point do you give up and apologize? Jason is clearly following the rules, and presents a solid response.

My advice to Kara: Shovel your driveway this winter. Chip away the ice yourself. Use a pitching wedge if you have to.

Kara, I will be on vacation until July 5th. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask me in person. I deliver these units between 10 and 11 am daily. Or feel free to call my boss at the local post office on East Third St. Thanks!