Why not look at the speed limit on Shankland? Many drivers are speeding down the street from Rt 84, just missing students as they cross the street to get to their cars.

Sorry to say, I've lived nearby for my entire life and actually wasn't aware of the Rt 84 zone until my wife pointed it out to me recently. I guess there is no excuse for my being so oblivious, but it certainly underscores the need for lights to more effectively let people know about it.

You're right who are we protecting? No one crosses Ridge road to the south side. Now Shankland on the other hand needs lights and the City knows it too, but has yet to do anything. They will when one of the kids gets hit I'll bet.

I have had people actually go around me because I was doing 20 threw this school zone. I always wondered why they didn't enforce the school zone. I see a police officer sitting at Willoughby Middle all the time and I never see him pull anyone over!!

They put up flashing school lights for the church on Rt 91 - so why not on Shankland? I never see school buses pulling out of the church or kids crossing the street during the times the lights are flashing. So why not have the flashing lights on Shankland?

The police don't even obey the school zone limit here. Neither do the school busses. The real issue is that there does not need to be a school zone limit there for all those hours. South starts school at 8:00 or so and the middle school starts at 8:30. South high gets out at 2:30. So the reality is there should be no school age children on those roads after 8:30 until 2:30. None of those schools allow students to leave for lunch. a more realistic and enforceable school zone time would be 7:30 am to 8:45 Am and 2:15 PM to 3:30 PM. It is difficult to have people go 20MPH when they don't see kids on the road. One could say they are setting up a speed trap. If they can put solar operated school zone light on the christian school in Willoughby Hills, willoughby eastlake school system can afford them for this area.

They are right about Shankland. Drivers routinly ignore the stop sign and come close to hitting the middle school kids.
Another issue the city of Willoughby needs to look into is the fact that students who walk home on Arlington or Harlow must walk in the streets. As a parent this is crazy people fly down these streets at over 50mph. (check police records).
I understand since they live less than a mile away they should walk but the city should make it safer to walk!

HOW LONG HAS SOUTH BEEN WITH NO SCHOOL SIGNAL LIGHTS?
I DRIVE BY ANDREWS EVERY DAY - AS SOON AS OSBORNE BECAOME AFFILIATED WITH ANDREWS THEY GOT SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS? MAYBE WE NEED THE OSBORNES TO BUY INTO SOUTH HIGH??

Please don't speak for ALL buses, some DO go 20 there and believe me, the people behind me are ANGRY and in a hurry.