These signs are fantastic and for the first time in about thirty years, people are actually stopping at the line of the stop sign. You clearly have no idea how many times people have been hit coming out of Haynes Road because people either don't stop at all our stop way past the line and only look down central street and not to their left. FINALLY some one has done something when the town NEVER had! Please tell me how a slow down sign and an arrow alerting people where to stop is going to cause an accident? THAT IS RIDICULOUS!

yes, can be corrected once people start stopping at the stop sign. Shouldn't be a distraction when you stop. Thanks

Dear resident guest reporting this issue. If you live in the neighborhood then you know here is an issue at that intersection. I would be more then happy to sit for a while and watch the traffic flow. Given there is a park across the street both signs seem fitting to me.

Haynes Road needs a stop sign and stop line clearly painted. There are far too many close calls with cars coming off that street and not even slowing down to enter Central or Fenwick. This isn't free-for-all driving. The lack of a stop sign on that road is an long-ignored oversight on the part of the town and not a special privilege for Haynes Road drivers to have preferential driving rights. Vehicles on Central St have the right of way always, then all others should follow state driving laws on right of way. First in goes first. As for the do-it-yourself arrow - cute idea and it does work and probably makes sense for a number of other locations but the additional of the kids playing sign is now getting silly. What's next?

I would agree that MA laws are odd where it comes to what street deserves a stop sign. Right now Haynes has preference over fenwick not over central. What you propose is a solution to what you see as another issue. It's one that need its own open thread but i believe warrants a review in conjunction with is one.

You have proved by your comments that you really don't know what you're talking about. Nobody doesn't stop at the bottom of Haynes. If you didn't, you'd get hit. No stop sign is needed at Haynes if people would actually stop at Fenwick. Central street has right of way and a lot of traffic. I've sat there for a while trying to get out of Haynes. The big problem is people not stopping at the stop sign. Say whatever you want, that's it. Leave the signage as is. IT WORKS!!

Seriously, if you have a stop sign, you need to stop. It doesn't matter if you think another street should also have a stop sign. And by the way people on Haynes Rd do not just blow out of there. They can't because they would die from all the people not bothering to stop on Fenwick. Sometimes the police sit on Haynes issuing citations to all the people failing to stop at the Fenwick stop sign. Sometimes the police hardly have time to park their car before they have to switch on their lights and issue another ticket. I spoke with the police once and they said almost all the people they stop say "What stop sign?" I think maybe those extra signs are finally making drivers notice that there even is a stop sign.

Adam Kiel assigned this issue to Highway Admin

Although I agree that very few drivers do stop at that stop sign, it is against the law for a private citizen to install their own traffic signs on town posts. There clearly is a stop sign, people just don't stop and break that law. Now someone took it upon themselves to not only post a neon sign under the stop sign but also a large arrow! You cannot take the law into your own hands. If you want signs posted on town property you need to go through the town. Law enforcement does NOT enforce the stop sign law at this site and you therefore cannot then take it upon yourself to enforce the law. If you have an issue speak to the town and the police. Haynes should also have a stop IMO because plenty of times I've seen people driving down that street and at the intersection causing problems entering Central. Both streets should have a stop. There should also IMO be a pedestrian crosswalk over to Simpson Park. You take your life in your hands walking across Central at this location. But once again Central is a speedway and speed not enforced.

I've lived here for a long time, over forty years. Central street has gotten extremely dangerous because there is no light from where it begins at edgell all the way to Saxonville. Perhaps a light could be put at this intersection. Could solve all these problems!

The real issue here is that Framingham police do not enforce the law on these streets. Stop signs and speeding not only on Central but several other roads. Roads in front of schools that people are speeding down. They will not do anything about it. Once drivers start getting pulled over for stop sign and speeding violations will it end. Until then I don't see anything changing and I've lived here for almost 20 years now! Still never put up my own signs

I would hate to see a stop light there. That would be horrible. What about making Fenwick a one way street off of Central? It would cut down on tons of traffic and keep people from treating Fenwick like an on ramp to a highway. (An exaggeration I know, but just barely.) A stop sign on Haynes wouldn't help anything. People are blowing through the stop sign on Fenwock and they would just continue to do that. I'm not opposed to a stop sign on Haynes - it just wouldn't solve the real issue of the disregarded Fenwick stop sign.

Also consistent trash from park people needs to be addressed litters the bottom of Haynes constantly and is unsightly

Agreed! I stopped the other day and told a guy to pick up the trash he left in the grass near his car. He just dumped it and went to leave. He apologized and picked it up. Only because I saw him. It's gross down there. I'm just calling the police over and over.

Signs have been removed.
Thank you

Great. ..now is the town going to do anything about the stop sign which is the real issue? You were quick to remove signs that were helping, this stop sign has been an issue for thirty plus years. Ridiculous!

If you're the one posting the signs illegally CALL THE TOWN office and the POLICE dept and ask how you can LEGALLY do something if it bothers you so much that people are not stopping. This isn't the only stop sign ppl blow past btw. Beacon St people don't stop at and there is a ton more traffic on that street that could cause head on collisions. I could list 10 off the top of my head ppl blow past in this town. The problem you have is with all drivers not the signs. Until you change the drivers breaking the law it won't change.

Thanks for fixing this issue!

Do you even live in the neighborhood? Again, nobody is blowing off the beacon street stop sign, If they were there would be constant accidents! I'm not the person putting up the signs, one of my neighbors is doing it. I'm just going to call the police every single day like I have been. Eventually they will get sick of it.

Yes thanks for fixing this NONISSUE!! DUMB!!!

I would seriously be careful calling people dumb on a thread. What's dumb is YOU calling the police every single time someone doesn't stop at one stop sign. They have actual emergencies they need to deal with besides this. Not sure if you've seen the news or not but they have much bigger issues to deal with than this. And I DO live in the neighborhood maybe you should educate yourself. Since you have the time maybe park on Beacon and other streets that have stop signs like Central going onto Edgell, Beacon going onto Summer, Brook going onto Water, etc....there are SEVERAL stop signs people DO NOT STOP at. This is not the only one. I've been cut off by all these stop signs ppl do not stop at nearly missing accidents. So don't assume I do not know what I'm talking about. I remember when I first moved here 20 years ago and I had my baby with me and one of the neighbors on Haynes ran up to my car and banged on the window telling me to get off their street. I was parking to go to Simpson Park. The fact that you don't want a stop on Haynes proves you all feel entitled to this part of town/road. With everything going on in the world fighting over a stop sign seems really ridiculous to me. Have a nice day! I'm done

I would seriously be careful calling people dumb on a thread. What's dumb is YOU calling the police every single time someone doesn't stop at one stop sign. They have actual emergencies they need to deal with besides this. Not sure if you've seen the news or not but they have much bigger issues to deal with than this. And I DO live in the neighborhood maybe you should educate yourself. Since you have the time maybe park on Beacon and other streets that have stop signs like Central going onto Edgell, Beacon going onto Summer, Brook going onto Water, etc....there are SEVERAL stop signs people DO NOT STOP at. This is not the only one. I've been cut off by all these stop signs ppl do not stop at nearly missing accidents. So don't assume I do not know what I'm talking about. I remember when I first moved here 20 years ago and I had my baby with me and one of the neighbors on Haynes ran up to my car and banged on the window telling me to get off their street. I was parking to go to Simpson Park. The fact that you don't want a stop on Haynes proves you all feel entitled to this part of town/road. With everything going on in the world fighting over a stop sign seems really ridiculous to me. Have a nice day! I'm done

And btw I hit the thanks button BY ACCIDENT but thanks for jumping down a strangers throat. It pressed and I couldn't get it off the mobile app.

Let's do the right thing not the fast thing. This problem needs to be addressed once and for all before someone gets hurt or worse yet.

I wasn't caning YOU dumb or jumping down YOUR throat. The taking down of the signs was dumb. They worked and drew attention to a safety hazard. It was also dumb how fast the town took care of this bit have done nothing about the real problem! I have NO issue with you, we disagree, who cares?

I hope the neighborhood masked sign avenger strikes again.

Me too! Perhaps one of those DRIVE LIKE YOUR KIDS LIVE HERE signs? Lol

@ Elia Gjanci - So, what does the town have planned for what is obviously a dangerous intersection? Taking down a sign is a reaction to a proactive action that someone took because the town has yet to do anything.

And the reason ppl stop then move up is because you cannot see with all the vegetation, the house on the corner has overgrown bushes and plants/trees. It's impossible to see traffic coming down the street unless you move up. Every time I stop (which I do every time) I get almost rear ended with ppl flipping me off and beeping. Then when I go they drive around me to cut me off on the other side of the road. The problem is the drivers in this town!

And the reason ppl stop then move up is because you cannot see with all the vegetation, the house on the corner has overgrown bushes and plants/trees. It's impossible to see traffic coming down the street unless you move up. Every time I stop (which I do every time) I get almost rear ended with ppl flipping me off and beeping. Then when I go they drive around me to cut me off on the other side of the road. The problem is the drivers in this town!

To 150 Fenwick. I just realized your address today. I am surprised you, given you live at that intersection, found those signs to be a problem. Would love to catchup bc I don't plan to be laughing when I get it by a car down there. Aleks. 8 Bryant road.

To the town. You spent MY tax dollars to come and take down signs that someone put up to help. How about using MY tax dollars to come up with a solution to do something official. Please with a cherry on top.

Thanks. Aleks.

I agree with Aleks. How about a trial run of making Fenwick a one way street going away from central? Make people who want to go to central from summer go up a block to where the two streets meet. Would solve the stop sign issue..

Aleks, the town does not have time to deal with these issues...oh wait, they found the time to take down a sign. They probably drove through the stop sign too and parked on Haynes to take the sign down, and walked by all of the trash that gets left by the people who fish. I guess we will have to wait until there is a major accident at that intersection to get their attention. So stupid of the town to not acknowledge this.

Highway Admin assigned this issue to Kate Ronconi

Good afternoon,
Although the signs were likely attached to the stop sign with the intention of promoting public safety, they do not comply with local, state, and federal regulations and could actually have the opposite of the intended effect. If you have any further questions or concerns regarding this intersection, please contact the Highway Director at 508-532-6030.
Thank you

Since this is the case, is there another sign that could be added to the stop sign? Perhaps saying cars entering from right? Something to draw attention to drivers to look right and not just to their left?

Dear Kate Voorhees,

PLEASE do not put any signs up on Fenwick. Today as I almost got killed by a driver bombing down Haynes I realized that the residents of this street don't actually care for ppls safety at all. It's them feeling entitled so they can just speed right through and not stop. There was a driver coming down Central and a car stopped at Fenwick (which they all want you to believe no one stops at, which is false) and then myself coming the other way on Central. If I was two seconds faster I along with my baby would have been killed. If you want to put up a sign put it up on Haynes. This car that almost killed us continued at a high rate of speed down Central and bombed through the stop at the end going onto Edgell.

Dear Kate Voorhees,

PLEASE do not put any signs up on Fenwick. Today as I almost got killed by a driver bombing down Haynes I realized that the residents of this street don't actually care for ppls safety at all. It's them feeling entitled so they can just speed right through and not stop. There was a driver coming down Central and a car stopped at Fenwick (which they all want you to believe no one stops at, which is false) and then myself coming the other way on Central. If I was two seconds faster I along with my baby would have been killed. If you want to put up a sign put it up on Haynes. This car that almost killed us continued at a high rate of speed down Central and bombed through the stop at the end going onto Edgell.