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On Sundays when the Farmer's Market is taking place just west of the library, the church on the corner of 57th and Webster seems to think they have the right to reserve public parking, parking spaces on the street, for their own use. They are putting people out there to make other citizens move to other places. This is not only along the street next to their church, but extends across the street, east down 57th Avenue. The church has no right to claim these public spots. Those spots are public, and should be available like all other parking spots on a first come, first served basis.
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I have heard nothing, and seen nothing in regard to this problem. I suppose the city is just waiting until it becomes a problem again when the Farmer's Market resumes.
This city doesn't follow the law. They write it, and pat themselves on the back for having written it, but, when it comes right down to it, they pretty much just play it by ear, and, when they do, it helps to be on their "good" list. If they like you, they will look the other way. If they don't like you, you may get a ticket for "breathing" in a public area.
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Nope, this is still going on, but at least I understand why now. I actually called the police yesterday when I saw this happening. It's their fault. They sent a guy over there to investigate. He was told that they had a permit, and that they were putting up a tent. Even though the officer saw no permit, and saw no tent, he "assumed" everything was OK. The truth is that the church "lied" to him. They had a guy sitting in a lawn chair reserving public spaces for the church, but he told the officer that he had a permit to do what he was doing, which he did not.
No matter where you go, laws are only as good as the enforcement. In Arvada, laws are meaningless because there is no enforcement. And, there is no enforcement because they hire mindless puppets to the police department. Now, I know that people aren't as smart as they could be, but it seems they could find a few with the intelligence to carry a badge.
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Oh, yes, this is still going on. I don't know how or why the city can issue parking permits for an area of town where parking is limited to Two Hours.
This is exactly why I never go to the Arvada Farmer's Market, and why I almost never shop in Olde Town unless I walk there. Parking is miserable, it is not going to improve, and the city's response to the problem is to issue parking permits to businesses which reduces available parking for customer, the ones with the money, even more.
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It is not as noticeable this time of year since the Farmers' Market is not going on, but it still goes on, and I find it reprehensible that the City Council feels it has the right and power to issue "special" parking permits to whomever they choose for whatever reasons they choose. It is not fair. The whole "Olde Town" design is "not fair," and poorly thought out.
Yeah, I can see them wanting to get business in there, but it just doesn't make sense to "force it" where it will not fit. For example, they allow huge delivery trucks to block entire streets in order to drop off supplies for restaurants. These streets and alleys were not designed to accommodate these big, heavy trucks, or the volume of traffic the city needs to make these businesses profitable. But, this is typical of this city. The main concern of any plan of theirs is to make money with little, (if any) regard at all for the environment, the infrastructure, the viability, the availability of resources like water, and so many other practical concerns. They just push projects forward, and try to patch up the leaks later.
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The most important thing to understand her is that City Council, under the shibboleth of "Home Rule," has made the issuance of parking permits "legal," and those permits go out to most favored cronies. Since they have made it legal to do so, it's more a problem of abuse of power than it is a legal issue. The real issue in this case is not only abuse by the City Council, but abuse by the permit holders as well. Those permit holders are sending people out with lawn chairs to block parking spaces, and keep people from parking in them. The police is supporting this. Those spaces, permit or not, are limited to two hours, and, even though the permit allows the person holding the permit to park as long as he or she wants, it does not allow the person to "hold" the space 24/7. If they are not using the space, they need to give it up to others who may need it. It is unconscionable for these people to block public spaces 24/7 because they have permits they use only three or four hours a day.
The City totally messed up in its promotion of business in the Olde Town area. Their planning did not include the forethought of "Where are the delivery trucks supplying these businesses going to park?" or "Where are all these extra customers we expect going to park?" Their main plan was to use the parking lot funded by, and paid for by taxpayers via the Light Rail to solve their parking issues. The truth is, it is still too far for people to walk, and the walk is uphill. Additionally, it doesn't solve the problem of the delivery trucks which much park in the middle of the street, (most alleys are too narrow for modern, larger delivery trucks), and block the entire street while they make their deliveries. It is a classic example of "Profit-Centered" planning by capitalists with little regard for the functionality of the plan, the impact on the community, or the impact on the environment. Their main, and driving focus was making money without much regard for any other concerns.
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Also, it is unconscionable for the city to issue "special" parking permits that allow vendors to "save" spaces, and to use them longer than the posted two hours. The Arvada Farmers Market is a poorly-planned, poorly-executed fiasco. It is in a space too small for the intended usage. Moving it is a preferable option to handing out special parking permits for "favored" vendors.
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The whole parking situation in Olde Town was not thought out, or planned out very well. It seems the city was in too much of a hurry to get businesses in there, and neglected to consider where customers would park.
I was at the Library the other day, and there was a delivery truck parked in the drop-off zone/No-Parking zone. He had to. There was nowhere else to park. Another truck was parked in the driveway behind the Schoolhouse restaurant making deliveries, too. So, if anyone needed, or wanted to use the drop-off area either for convenience or necessity, they were screwed, and had to find other parking.
There were also two police vehicles there. One was properly parked in the space reserved for that purpose, but the other officer wasn't about to do any walking. He/she parked on the other side of the delivery truck in an area clearly marked no parking, and he/she was not even parked in a space! Just kind of sticking out there. Inside, I saw no indication of police activity requiring such attention. In a non-emergency, it seems to me the other officer could have used the same public parking as citizens.
I understand the city knows about this problem, and has no intention of doing anything about it, but it seems to me they could "plan" things better to make the situation better, and more usable for all. I want to keep this open to remind all that people deal with this every day, and people are not forgetting about it. If the city makes it too much of a bother to use their city, people will go elsewhere. I know I do. This last visit to the library was the first time I have been there in almost a year. It is actually easier for me to use the Lakewood Library on 20th Avenue...
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