Traffic signals division went to this intersection and no problem was found. They will continue to monitor for duplication of what was reported, but I will close this issue in SeeClickFix. Thanks for reporting.

Please re-read my description of this problem. I'm saying that when one side turns green both sides should be green even if there is not a car there to go across. What is the point in holding back a car that arrived just before the light changed?

A traffic signals tech was re-dispatched to this intersection. No problems or issues with the signal setup were noted. Closing ise in SCF. Thanks for the follow-up.

Just a comment here. That second bump right before HYDE is the one that angres me the most because it forces one to go over it before leaving Northbrook. If it was on the other side of Hyde, this whole thing (except for the incorrect shapes) wouldn't bother me as much. I swear if I had a bobcat I would remove those bumps myself.

Speed Humps and Property Values (a google search)

http://www.oocities.org/nbumps/
http://www.waterfordvillage.org/traffic-wires/traffic-bumps.htm
http://wcobserver.com/2012/05/speed-bumps-do-the-research-then-do-something/

The city is ruining our property values.

This response is being posted to Raleigh SCF issues 416140 (Non-conforming Speed Humps) and 428068 (Speed Bumps too Aggressive), which are identical reports of the same issue related to the citizen initiated and city-installed traffic calming measures along Northbrook Drive, a project of the City’s Neighborhood Traffic Management Program (NTMP).

Speed compliance has long been an issue on Northbrook Drive, especially in the vicinity of Brooks Elementary School. Initial contact with the City’s Public Works department regarding Northbrook Drive came from the Raleigh Police Department, on behalf of Brooks Elementary administration, seeking a long term fix rather than a temporary solution to the Northbrook speeding problem. This inquiry took place in November 2005. When Northbrook Drive was subsequently evaluated for traffic calming measures, it earned a score of 51.12 points, well above the 30 point minimum required to be placed on the list for traffic calming initiatives. The high volume was 4120 vehicles per day and the high 85th% speed was 40.0 miles per hour. When the first NTMP project list was presented to the City Council in September 2010, Northbrook was ranked ninth on the minor project list. If it had been placed on the major project list this street would have ranked 20th and perhaps not have come up for consideration. However, Northbrook Drive remained on the minor project list, and residents were given the opportunity to provide input to staff as to a speeding and safety problem on this street that needed to be addressed. Residents did so by executing and submitting a petition of support for a project, and the initiative moved forward through the NTMP program.

The NTMP is a citizen driven program. At the first workshop, attendees approved a preliminary design consisting of seven (7) speed humps and the raised crosswalk at the school. That preliminary design was posted to the City website, marked in paint on the street, and design comments were solicited from residents along the street. At a second workshop the design comments were discussed and the preliminary design was reduced by consensus of the residents in attendance to three (3) speed humps and the raised crosswalk feature. This design concept was approved by the residents in attendance. The design was presented to the City Council for approval and installation.

Following construction and installation, it has been determined that subsurface pavement failure is taking place in the westbound lane of Northbrook Drive in the area of the speed hump closest to North Hills Drive. Staff is in the process of executing a contract Change Order to repair this area of pavement failure. Once approved the contractor will schedule a crew to perform the pavement and speed hump repair. While onsite and as part of the contract work, and in response to the comments posted to SeeClickFix and comments made to the City Council, staff will have the contractor and city inspectors measure and re-verify all speed hump installations on Northbrook Drive to confirm that heights are within the allowable design tolerances. Any speed humps found to be installed outside of tolerance will be adjusted to bring them within design tolerance.

We appreciate all of the input and comments on these two SeeClickFix issues. This remains a work in progress, which includes repair and potential remediation of the installed traffic calming features. The ongoing work is being tracked by our Public Works department and therefore we are closing both issues (416140 and 428068) in SeeClickFix.

Louis, you just don't get it. The Public Works staff IS the problem. They can address it all they want, but only removal will satisfy those of us who insist on due process in expending our tax dollars..

Seriously...

Removal is the only right thing to do. The city made a mistake and they need to admit it and take those humps out.

We have recently installed a new cabinet and implemented new test cycling plans. We are still working on proper timings that would move the most traffic efficiently. City of Raleigh traffic signal technician monitored the intersection during the morning hours and noticed traffic on Anderson cleared out on most cycles. The most delay you should incur is ≈ 130 sec. per cycle We will be recalculating timings once the whole Six Forks corridor has been upgraded. Thank you for your concern in traffic efficiency and safety.

Note, this is far from a foolish redesign. In fact, THANK YOU to CoR for getting to it. 35+mph traffic traveling SE on Six Forks would "peel-off" onto Anderson without slowing down, right into a blind intersection with Drewry Lane. This intersection was quaint, but antiquated and very dangerous. And thanks also for leaving the Anderson merge into Six Forks as a ramp. Even more safe and efficient.

A signal study is being conducted. It will take about 60 days. We will provide a recommendation upon completion of this study.

Perhaps a flashing right arrow would work here ?

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part4/fig4d_19_longdesc.htm

This improvement has been approved by our engineers and now it is in NCDOT's court. They have to draw up new plans before we can update the intersection. Cabinet plans have to match what is working in the street. NCDOT does not currently monitor SeeClickFix inquiries and has requested that we direct you to call (919) 733-4768 for an update.

Thank you

The left turns for inbound and outbound Glenwood work together, which means when one side is on, so is the other side. However, a city of Raleigh traffic signal technician found the outbound side detection loop in the street was not working which results in a permanent call which causes the intersection to cycle even if no one is present. It has to be left in this state so when a vehicle does get into the lane, they will receive a light A work order has been created to have a new detection loop cut which will address this particular problem. Also, the city is currently rewiring the entire intersection and are going to separate the left turn phases resolving your issue of both signals being on without anyone present, but until these changes can be implemented the left turn arrow will continue to cycle together. We are in the process of getting the loops cut but this process takes time. Thank you for your concern in the safe and efficient movement of traffic.

Public Works Department has reported both Wake Forest Road and Six Forks Road are approved truck routes. Multi-axle trucks are allowed on both of these streets.

I had the same question as Jason and waited a week to see if Eileen from the City responded but neither she nor her colleagues have yet. She noted that weather causes the construction crew to lose a few days. Obviously there is a schedule with days of work to complete the project. Where on that schedule is this project? A couple more weeks of work, or 20 weeks, or something in between. I would welcome a response. Thanks.

If we are able to work without any interruptions from the weather or unexpected issues, I would estimate that we can have Drewry Lane open in 2-3 weeks.

Eileen M. Navarrete, P.E.
Construction Projects Administrator
City of Raleigh Public Utilities Department

Thanks for the update.

This issue has been repaired.

Our officers will visit the site and speak with the property owner about the boat.

The boat has been moved off the street.

There was a work order placed for the detection loops on Six Forks Road on 9/4/12. It will take about 8 -10 weeks to repair them.

There is a bad detection at Six Forks and Northbrook intersection. A work order has been issued to replace it. The map shows Northbrook and North Hills intersection, signals are working properly there.

From their response, I don't think the City understands the problem. The problem (I think) is that the embedded detection device thinks there is traffic on E Six Forks Rd when there is none and the light stops traffic on southbound Atlantic for well over a minute and only turns green for a few seconds. What do flashing yellow arrows have to do with it? Maybe the recent work at that intersection messed up the detection device.

We are still working on this issue and will update soon.

There is a bad detection device. A work order has been placed and as soon as the work is complete the intersection should resume normal operation.

We've got this work scheduled. It should be completed in a week to two weeks.

We have this work scheduled. It should be complete in a week to two weeks.

I realize that it may be a surprise to receive a comment after all this time, but the City of Raleigh only recently started tracking and responding to See Click Fix inquiries, so we picked this one up and here's the result:

This item was referred to our Transportation Operations division. Staff will review the reported crash history and determine if any changes to the channelization should be pursued. If so NCDOT will need to concur since this falls on their state highway system.

We'll post an update when they have completed their work.

It's not that folks don't understand what lane they are supposed to be in. I'm sure many do. However, if you are in the R lane of North Hills turning left to go straight across Glenwood, the R lane on North Hills has so many cars turning right, turning left, going straight, that the light changes red and you end up sitting through at least 2 or 3 light cycles. The light cycles are very long at this intersection. You could spend almost ten minutes waiting to turn left from the right-hand lane.

Our transportation engineer is looking into possible timing changes for that signal, however, that signal is tied into all the other traffic signals around Crabtree and along Glenwood. We are looking at current traffic volumes to allow for enough time to effectively move traffic for all approaches.

All this is tied in with the Crabtree Valley transportation study. Find more information about this here:
http://www.crabtree-valley-transportation-study.com/

Please check back periodically on the web site to stay connected with these traffic issues.

This light detection system is still not working properly for me. I have tried positioning the bike in various positions in the spot without success. Does this light use the inductive-loop traffic detection system? I don't see the typical cut marks in the pavement, but perhaps that is because the road was recently resurfaced. If so, perhaps adding some painted marks on the road surface to show the location of the loop (or loops) would help bicyclists and motorcyclists position themselves for better detection.

I have not seen a valid argument where magnets will have any affect on this type of inductive loop system, and aluminum rims should easily be detected by a properly sized and adjusted system. I do live near this intersection and would be more than happy to bring my motorcycle over when the technicians are there, to assist in testing.

I'll refer this back to Public Works to see if a test might be necessary. I will let you know.

Our traffic signal technician has verified that the loops are all working correctly and has adjusted the loop sensitivity which should help indicate when a motorcycle is waiting to be serviced. The detection loops are located in the center of the lane in most cases up to the stop bar. We will monitor this for any other adjustments and correct them as needed.

Thank you for taking the time to report this concern. While the city does have an ordinance in place regarding parking five feet from a driveway, this does not address the concern of not being able to see when to safely pull out.

The management office of the apartment complex can make a request for a vision obstruction study to be completed, and we will review the parking, the sight distance, and the accident history. If any problems are observed, staff will make a recommendation for city council approval. The request should be submitted to Sherry Beville, Transportation Analyst, at sherry.beville@raleighnc.gov.

This road is maintained by the North Carolina Department of Transportation. We have notified the District Engineer. NCDOT does not track See, Click, Fix inquiries. If you'd like to follow up on this issue with them, please call (919) 733-3213.

We checked and have since reallocated time back to Barrett from the cabinet change over. This should be fixed now.

We have looked into the concern that the existing posted speed limit is creating unsafe condition at this intersection. A sight distance study was done and there is adequate site distance for the posted speed limit. There is an existing warning sign on southbound Atlantic Ave that warns motorist that there is an intersection ahead. A crash study was done and there have not been any reported crashes at this intersection in the past three years from vehicles exiting Meadow Wood. Since speed is the concern at this intersection a speed study was done and it showed that vehicles were travelling in excess of the posted speed limit in this area. A copy of this study has been forwarded to the police department to aid in enforcement. The city does not recommend adjusting the 45mph speed limit at this time. For further information, please contact Rebecca Duffy via email at Rebecca.duffy@raleighnc.gov.

This one was done a couple of weeks ago. Just clearing some older issues

Thank you! Yes, we all noticed the fix and thank you for a great response. I would have passed our thanks along earlier, but didn’t know how to do it.

Again, Thank You

Spring Valley Neighborhood

This signal has a detection issue and has been placed on recall to service the side street phase until a contractor can get it fixed. It should be repaired within the next week or so.

I am an affected property owner, as I own a condo beside this apartment building. I have been driving on Mellow Field Drive for the past 8 years (much longer than the apartment building has been in existance). Since I am an affected property owner, can this case be re-opened?

It's fine to reopen the case here, but the next action that would need to be taken would be for you to contact Sherry Beville (sherry.beville@raleighnc.gov) to petition for a change in the ordinance controlling no parking zones on this street. Only the City Council can change the regulations for public streets. Sherry should be able to help you with the process. I will leave the case open until some resolution one way or another is made by the Council.

As Sherry has been in touch and there appears to be a plan for involving the apartment owner and the HOA, we are going to re-close this on at this point.

Officers will be out there at the next event to make sure people are properly parked. If not, citations will be issued.