With a right turn only lane, pedestrians would be unable to safely cross the intersection.

The last post raises a significant safety issue. At that location Grooms Rd not only intersects Moe Rd but also the multi-use trail on the east side of Moe Rd. Also there are no pedestrian indications or marked crosswalks at this location

(http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=moe+rd+%26+grooms+rd,+12065&aq=&sll=37.230328,-95.712891&sspn=51.227313,134.912109&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Grooms+Rd+%26+Moe+Rd,+Clifton+Park,+Saratoga,+New+York+12065&ll=42.840353,-73.793879&spn=0,0.032938&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=42.840323,-73.793732&panoid=LVNHTgT2j_v707KIH8qk-A&cbp=12,291.57,,0,5.69)

A right turn lane would increase the crossing distance for pedestrians by another 12 feet. Without pedestrian push buttons and pedestrian indications it would be challenging. At Moe and Clifton Park Center Rds Right Turns on Red have been prohibited for an almost identical situation. Driver inattention making RTOR caused several near misses with pedestrians & bicyclists.

the simple and complete solution would be to install all of the mentioned "pedestrian-friendly" safeguards in place (push buttons, marked crosswalks, etc) to make sure it's a safe intersection for drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians. with these measures, it seems there should be no reason NOT to install a "right turn only" lane. thus, improving traffic flow AND ensuring the safety of all.

Mike, I agree. However, while everyone wants highway improvements such as these, no one wants to pay for them through an increase in their taxes (Saratoga County in this case). Look at the deteriorating condition of the highway infrastructure. Every level of government (Town, County & State) is trying to maintain an aging system with the same or less resources.

Al - Yes, although you're pointing out a second and seperate issue. I understand and appreciate there is a balance to be struck among the numberous requests citizens have and the limited resources of gov't. I felt compelled to post this (I was the original poster as "Anonymous") as an issue as I believe it does impact a great enough people to warrant it being pointed out and discussed. Without doubt, there are MANY things we as residents can bring to the public's attention. I guess it's simply getting the right people to agree on what particular issues deserves the public dollars.

By the way, I think it's fair to assume that these improvemenmts don't always equate to an INCREASE in taxes. I believe (but not 100% sure) that a portion of the budget is dedicated to ongoing improvements? Hence, no additional INCREASE? I know that may sound like an idealistic approach and may not be very realistic, but true nonetheless?

Thanks for taking the time to pay attention and post your comments. Do you have any suggestions on where to direct this issue as you seem to be very knowledgeable on these matters? Town of CP? Saratoga County? Both? thanks in advance -Mike

Mike,

To answer your last question first, Joe Ritchey is the Commisioner of Public Works for Saratoga County.

http://saratogacountyny.gov/departments.asp?did=100

He is a very responsive individual and will get back to you very quickly. The ideal time to have dealt with this intersection was when the road was being resurfaced last year ( I believe).

True, any single improvement will not result in an increase in taxes but would require an allocation (or reallocation) or resources that cannot be used elsewhere. Yes I think you're being idealistic but there's no harm in that. I've been in transportation for 42 years so I lost some of my optimism.

With your interest in the Town and transportation I invite you to participate in the Clifton Park Town Center Public Design Workshop that will be held next month. The announcement can be found at: http://www.slideshare.net/akaroly/clifton-park-town-center-public-design-workshop

I'd also invite you to attend the Clifton Park Highway Safety Advisory Committee meetings on the 3rd Thursday of the month at the Town Hall. http://www.cliftonpark.org/townhall/highwaysafety/

Regards, Al

There is a right turn lane, it's up a bit further at the traffic light, kind of a safety concern but it's there. The spot your talking about is for exiting and entering the park and ride at one particular spot.

Douglas -
you must be thinking of a different location.
there is no Park n Ride at this location.
this issue is at the corner of GROOMS and MOE - off of Exit 8A of the Northway.
Perhaps you're thinking of Exit 8? (Crescent Road)

Never had to wait any significant amount of time at this location to make a right turn; I imagine that a traffic study is in order, though, if there is sufficient public interest.