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because of the set up between Whitney Ave and Audubon Street, there pedestrians are constantly dashing across Whitney Avenue - frequently while holding small children. We need a crosswalk! 44 Whitney Ave,New Haven,CT 06510

submitted by melissa 8 months ago
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Michael Dunlap wrote 8 months ago

Students at Neighborhood Music School and ACES need to cross the street here ALL THE TIME. There should be a crosswalk.

Transportation, Traffic & Parking Dept. wrote 8 months ago

As part of the Nelson/Nygaard Downtown Bike/Ped Study, the consultants recommended against placing a marked crosswalk there mainly due to the change in grade along Whitney Ave.

Michael Dunlap wrote 8 months ago

@TTPD: whether the consultant recommended against crosswalks or not, the reality of the intersection is that it gets a LOT of foot traffic, including parents with little children. It can be a dangerous crossing, what with cars speeding and delivery trucks blocking lanes (and vision.) Surely there is something that can be done to make it safer for pedestrians here.

Ben wrote 8 months ago

Agree that this would be really dangerous with the current grade. What about adding a crosswalk on the hip of the road?

Resident wrote 8 months ago

I agree with Michael and Ben. More needs to be done. A crosswalk is needed, even if it means redesigning the road itself in a significant way, or moving the crossing to the crest of the road. When the Farmington Canal Trail exit is built here, won't there technically be a legal crosswalk at or near the crown as well?

This situation is unacceptable and must be fixed before more people are killed here.

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David Streever wrote 8 months ago

I don't think the consultants had adequate data to make that determination--and would probably modify their determination if they saw figures on how frequently it is used for walking.
(I was there when the consultant stated that it was "legally" a crosswalk)

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David Streever wrote 8 months ago

Let's do a sweet crosswalk here--raised--textured--etc--like any other major city.

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David Streever wrote 8 months ago

Sorry--
what about in-road paint--"CROSSWALK AHEAD" just before the grade change?

Resident wrote 8 months ago

Those are great ideas, Streever. This xwalk should be an urgent priority. Should we get the Town Green District involved?

Doug wrote 8 months ago

The downtown wooster-square community management team has also been asked to get involved and weigh in on the issue.

Their monthly meeting meets tomorrow night (6pm at City Hall) and can provide another useful avenue for advocacy on issues such as this.

http://groups.google.com/group/DWSCMT/

Resident wrote 8 months ago

That's great, DWSCMT!

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Koffee Regular wrote 8 months ago

Whether or not there is a crosswalk, many many people cross Whitney Ave here, so the Consultant's point is completely moot. Might as well give pedestrians at lease *some* protection rather than none at all (as it is right now)!!!

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Kevin wrote 8 months ago

I crossed here Friday and a car almost hit me. I even looked both ways before crossing and didn't see a car. A UPS truck was blocking one lane and a car was parking in the other. The car that almost hit me sped between them. SOMETHING needs to be done before we have a fatality there.

Ben wrote 8 months ago

What about an in road sign warning of a crosswalk in 50 feet on the hip and then a crosswalk at Audubon.

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Resident wrote 8 months ago

I like Ben's idea too. Ben and Streever, you guys should take over the city's engineering department. The casual delays at getting things accomplished when they've been complained about for years are really unacceptable.

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David Streever wrote 8 months ago

Thanks Resident! Although I fear the issue is higher than Engineering: Engineering has a very limited budget due to a decision that this type of work is not important. 110k could have painted a lot of crosswalks in New Haven.
Quote from Jerry concerning Front St that I think is applicable here--
"If you don't like our idea what are yours? In the past few years there have been at least 8 accidents in this block of Front St. There was one death. It's a very narrow street and has become more dangerous since the re-paving (following the sewer work) and speeding and reckless driving are out of hand."

"If you don't like our idea what is your idea"--fair question to ask of the City. If the answer is "No idea" then the question still stands. What will the city do to improve crossing here?

Resident wrote 8 months ago

Obama's famous words: "Make me do it." If the city can't or won't act, we need to have a protest or something.

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Mark wrote 5 months ago
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frequent patron of businesses on Whitney wrote 5 months ago

It is deeply ironic that Audubon Street was so beautifully reconstructed to be pedestrian friendly but you can't get there safely on foot from the west, where most of the people are!
No wonder that so few of the storefronts on Audubon are occupied.
I can't believe that there is not a solution to this problem. When do we throw up our hands and give up on vehicle access? Never.
It's time to prioritize pedestrian movements in this city.

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Mark wrote 5 months ago

I agree with the above comment.

SLP wrote 5 months ago

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with "frequent patron" and would add that it is equally difficult and dangerous to access that block Audubon from the east, across Orange St. For a street that is a big child and student magnet given the presence of CAW, NMS, and ECA, the lack of safe, structured pedestrian access is a very foolish gamble.

DMH wrote 5 months ago

Agree with the need for a safer way to cross here and also that the grade of the road makes it difficult for a typical cross walk to work. I wonder if when redoing the greenway trail that runs below Whitney right near this point, maybe they can provide easy access to the trail from both sides of Whitney so that pedestrians could go under Whitney. The same should be done at the Trumbull/Prospect intersection. Almost like the walkways in London at major intersections.

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Erin wrote 5 months ago

That's an interesting suggestion about the greenway, but I would like to see that be in addition to street grade improvements. I'd be interested in knowing the change in the street width between Grove and Audubon on Whitney. It seems that the street narrows right at the greenway crossing. Cars gun it from the Grove intersection and launch over that hill right where the street narrows and most pedestrians are trying to pass. ( just stood there with 10 other people for a good minute waiting for a break in the cars).
It seems to me that narrowing the street toward the Grove end and creating a slow point before the hump would lower the speeds enough to put in a crosswalk at Audubon.
Another great solution would be to return Whitney to a two way street. It is well understood that cars travel at higher speeds on one-way streets.

5 months ago

I like Erin's suggestion of significantly narrowing the lanes. Could be done by simply painting a buffer zone, striped, next to both sides of parked cars. A few SLOW and XWALK AHEAD or SCHOOL AHEAD - 15 MPH markings on the roadway itself would do wonders and cost very little.

Can the city go ahead and go out and do this next week, or should residents take it into their own hands before YET MORE pedestrians are seriously injured here?

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