There is NO way to properly make a U-Turn there. It is as illegal as crossing a double yellow line. People assume that just because there isn't a sign that they can do it. There are NUMEROUS parking lots and roads to turn into to turn around. People just feel they need to turn around NOW, not in a few hundred feet.

Scott: it's not at all illegal.

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmanual/chapter05-manual.htm#mku-trn

"You may make a U-turn only from the left portion of the lane closest to the centerline of the roadway, never from the right lane. Unless signs tell you otherwise, you may make a U-turn when you are given the go-ahead by a green arrow left-turn traffic signal, provided it is not prohibited and you yield to other traffic."

So, the left-arrow traffic on 9W *does* have a legal right, absent a sign saying otherwise, to make a U-turn and go north, provided they yield to other traffic legally in the intersection.

So if Sottile Blvd traffic has a red-light only, the 9W traffic can make unfettered U-turns without worry, since by law the Sottile Blvd traffic has to wait until the intersection is clear of all traffic before attempting a right-on-red.

If the Sottile Blvd traffic has a right-turn green, then they are legally entitled to pull into the RIGHTMOST TRAFFIC LANE (the legal way to make a right-turn), and proceed from there. So long as the U-turn traffic from 9W doesn't interfere with that (and it can be done, I've done it) there's absolutely no law being broken.

For larger vehicles with clumsier turn-radii, the U-turn traffic would have to hold until the Sottile Blvd right-turn-on-green traffic was out of their way before proceeding.

i don't see where this is a problem other than you don't like it!

i don't see where this is a problem other than you don't like it!

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