Thank you Ron...this has been a growing problems I reported it some weeks and got nowhere, I spoke with the ward 2 Alderman and I know the city police have been getting calls, but do not reponds. It's been said to be a fact that some of those people are selling weed to make a few bucks ??? If we can't get help from our public officals maybe we can foam a group to march on the park. And the city needs to POST signs.

Thank you Ron for steping up to the plate on this issues. I reported this some weeks ago and if you read all the commons, it made me feel like I was the bad guy in all this. This is a steaming conversation talked by all people living and having offices near albany / clinton ave, which I, knew how to reach you.

I reported this matter to the ward 2 alderman. Two older people have been asked to buy drugs from these people, when the city police get the calls, they don't show. For a fact known.....These people are selling weed, just to make a few bucks?????? Academy Green, has had thier share of problems in recent years . Our city is falling on deaf ears on whats happening here. These people don't want help just looking for handouts just like what happening down on the plaza. I'v seen the police talking with them, the firetrucks and EMS being sent there on tax payers money.Maybe we the people should take this in our hands by putting a group of us walking the park in order to get our message out.

I also live right across from the park and think of it as my neighborhood. There has been a bigger homeless population there than other summers, but considering our economy, that's to be expected. As someone said previously, where are they to go. I'm in the park at least once a day and haven't seen any evidence of drugs, but at times there are some very objectionable characters hanging out. I can't see the whole park from my windows and of course haven't seen anyone sleeping in it or would call the police, but I'm seeing a lot more action at the park on the Daily Blotter published by the Kingston Police Department. I am wondering what these "field interviews" mean that have occurred late at night at the park. I've noticed that when there are other after dark calls to local parks, the reason given is park ordinance. Any ideas?

The people in the park, Academy Green, are not homeless, with the exception, lately, of Bill Portier. The people live in small apartments in Uptown and gather there really to enjoy the park. One or two brings a bike, pretty much the same regulars. The fountain isn't working this year because, as one said, the homeless would abuse it, bath in it etc...
That being said, it is wonderful that there are many eyes on the park, helping to keep it safe, clean.

ok just two mornings ago, a resident from the Gov. CLINTON APTS......early in the morning notice the hooded lady, sleeping on the porch right next to 1 Albany Ave. ( RED BRICK BUILDING ) she awoked and walked a few feet and within in few minutes was using the grounds for the bathroom. Others have seen her doing it at the same location.so how can she be living in a small apt. ?????? ( they said the cops were called to this location.) This Bill is seen leaving the park very early and heading over to the Main St corner store and returning with coffee to the park I would'nt be calling this their apts setting??????

Bill Porier at Academy Green , approx 11:15, called in to Kingston Police (I used 911: that's NOT the right way to call the Police on such a small matter. I won't do that again.)
Officer(Potikarvo?) just starting shift change, called a car out to cover it. She asked for and got my call back number.
As a minor note, someone set of a firecracker just about a minute before that, someplace nearby. Just one.

Other than feeling concerned, it really doesn't matter if these individuals are homeless or not and I don't think that it is even our business. I have reached out to try to make sure that they know where they can get food, etc. What matters to me is that they are following the park rules and are out by dusk. They seem to be quite careful about this, except for Bill P. I'm not sure that he's that capable of taking care of himself even minimally. I see the hooded lady helping him.
It's sad, but we might as well get used to it. There is going to be increased homelessness in every community unless we provide more services. It can happen to anyone. Safety nets are disappearing.
Even in a rich community like Santa Barbara they provide a parking lot where the homeless can at least live in their cars, if they have them.

http://criminaljustice.state.ny.us/SomsSUBDirectory/offenderDetails.jsp?offenderid=3374

I have now seen this man at this park Sat and Sun.

More info on what he looks like, he has no upper front teeth and wears glasses.

He was also hanging with 2 guys, one likes to smoke blunts.

When we get old, we tend to get ugly, man, woman, not matter what. A missed shave, a couple of bad teeth, and we don't wear a while shirt and tie.
It is not crime* to be and old, ugly man sitting in the park. Indeed, if you listen to John Prine, he'll say "old people just grow lonesome, waiting for someone to say, hello in there, oh"
Say hello to people when you meet their eyes.

*Actually, it is a little bit of a crime, isn't it? Hard to avoid it. I think I might have committed it a few times, off and on.

I have seen Bill back at Academy green. He is living there. He squats down in the bushes between the statues and sleeps.He brags about it at the Clinton Ave church. he also has told some one I know that he was staying with some one but they asked him to leave due to some inappropriate behavior on his part. He has asked me out and many women I know. He is lonely and wants some one to take care of him. i have asked him before why he does not live with his son. He has no response or just says Because... He can be a menace and he uses the park as a bathroom. This he also brags about.. Some thing needs to be done. He is on Soc. Sec. has has the funding for an apt,.he chooses this life..

It ain't pretty but it is a free country: if you are not breaking a law, you cannot be accosted.
There is no law against most of the stuff Bill does. And the laws that do exist, such as littering (he leaves a cloud of litter wherever he pauses), are not enforced. There are no laws about bathing, no laws about having your old body exposed in the park on a hot day when the kids from the YWCA are out playing. It may offend, but it is not against the law.
We'll hear explanations the the police are over worked, etc, etc, but we know that a truly dedicated police force would get the job done, would make its presence felt. If you want more from your police, expect more. And if that means being "unreasonable", be unreasonable.
Nonetheless, it is also fine and fair that people speak their minds and share with each other where certain public acts are offensive: that "free country" applies to all of us.
So, keep it coming. And thank you.
I support and participate in the Kingston Neighborhood Watch.
http://www.kingston-ny-neighborhood-watch.com/
y'all come.

there are two words for this sympathy , and vagrancy..... we can sympathize but this and all others that live on the streets and use the grounds for public restrooms are vagrants, is there a law in kingston for vagrants , ????????? thats the question..... one will bring more.... how charming.... hey if we all like this the tax roll can come down, a good thought.... so kingston do your job...

this man receives a social security check did he work to get it??????? he has the means to get out of the park and into a room somewhere.. or loose the social security check..... the buck has to stop somewhere..... how many children see his behavior in the park... ????? not a nice thing for vactioners into our area to see...... tsk, tsk

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