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Once a week there is an accident at the intersection of Audubon and Orange Street....and someone got run over last week. I have worked near the intersection for 8 years and it needs not only a designated crosswalk for the people coming in and out of the housing authority, but it needs a traffic light or to install 2 more stop signs so that it is a three way stop (Audubon is one way to state street)
27 Comments
Kam Lasater (Registered User)
I would add that the cars coming off the trumbull off ramp seem to still think they are on a freeway.
What if there were a speed hump or two on orange street between Audubon and Trumbull?
Tree Hugger 2011 (Guest)
Let's not put speed bumps in please. Kam Lasater do you live near a heavily traveled intersection and would you want to add to that noise the sound of cars going over a speed bump? Speed bumps don't go away at night when you are trying to sleep.
The traffic at Audubon and Orange has become more confusing and it may be heavier because east bound Trumbull is blocked off. The whole traffic pattern is a mess with the sewer separation construction project. Cars are in a hurry because the drivers feel they have wasted so much time at the Trumbull-Orange intersection. Let's not base our traffic control system on an area that will go back to normal when the project is finished.
It is a surprise that no alternate routes were suggested when east-bound Trumbull was blocked. At rush hour, it seems everyone is just driving the streets closest to Trumbull just to get back to the Trumbull-Orange intersection.
It is also unfortunate that the mid-street Stop for Pedestrians signs have not been put back. Some drivers remember and do stop while others have actually come to the crosswalk and sped up. This certainly does not help things--it just adds to the confusion.
There certainly is a lack of a policy here and a speed bump is not the answer.
Kam Lasater (Registered User)
Tree Hugger,
I lived on that block for two years so I guess my suggestions come from feeling like cars drag raced down the block. My experiences have been prior to the sewer separation project. I wonder if the drivers know that they are in a school zone. There are no school zone signs there (from memory & google street view).
What other traffic calming techniques would you suggest?
MiniCooper (Guest)
Tree Hugger 2011 (Guest)
In my experience in this area (and maybe this is what you meant), the racing cars would come down Trumbull toward Orange and try to beat the light to get on the highway. I am unaware of cars racing on Orange. I cannot tell when the bars close at night during the project.
It sounds like MiniCooper is saying you need to pay attention because you will need to stay out of his/her way. Certainly cannot hurt to put those Slow-Cones back out there. Giving regard to pedestrians (who actually have the right-of-way no mater how stupid they chose to be) will slow the traffic.
In dealing with ramp traffic coming into New Haven, it is my view that the State will do anything to get the traffic off the highway--first and foremost. That leaves little time and distance to point out that you have two school zones north and south of Trumbull. There should be signage for school zones and speed limits--whether they help or not.
For now, Slow-Cones, that is all that I would do. Small steps.
Debora Burns (Registered User)
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
Do you have more details on who was "run over" here or how/when it happened? That is good information to track.
Cones and bollards would significantly reduce speeds here, which is the key to preventing crashes. The in road signs should be made permanent, as they are in other cities and outside the State Capitol in Hartford.
Narrowing the width of Audubon where it meets Orange would also help significantly to improve driver and pedestrian visibility and perhaps reduce crashes. See http://www.sinoconcept.com/2012/01/10/neckdown/
Additionally, lower speed limits should be posted on Orange Street between East Rock Park and Downtown, though that needs to be part of a citywide conversation. Many cities are implementing 20 MPH or even 15MPH zones. Even without traffic calming, posting lower limits has been shown to have a significant impact on speeding especially if drivers are aware of the signage and/or marketing.
Finally, addressing the highway off ramp would change the "feel" of this area. The off ramp at Exit 3 was designed to be a highway connector (luckily, the highway that was planned to destroy Trumbull Street, loop around the cemetery and flatten Dwight Street to the ground was never actually built), so it actually is no surprise that drivers fly off of it at 50 miles per hour.
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
Please see http://seeclickfix.com/issues/3909 for additional discussion of the problems of the ramp, and how they can be solved.
The graphic here is just a sketch of one possible option. Potential new streets are shown in blue. The permeability created by these new streets would dramatically increase the walkability and bikeability of all three surrounding neighborhoods.
The acres of land that the City would gain could result in millions of dollars per year in additional tax revenue to support our youth programs.
CT Livable Streets Campaign (Registered User)
Debora Burns (Registered User)
needy politicians and bad planners (Guest)
Convert Orange St., northbound, to two lanes, rather than three, from Audubon St.. Install on-street parking, on the East side of Orange St., with an abbreviated right-turn lane @ the intersection of Orange and Trumbull St., for cars turning onto the highway entrance ramp.
Part of the traffic mess is the closure of Trumbull St., and the State Street bridge FAIL concurrently, compounded by the city's lack of willingness to abandon failed traffic planning policies and gross errors from the 1950's.
The mystery of New Haven politics is why the city is obsessed with catering to people who don't live in New Haven, don't pay taxes to New Haven, and can't vote in New Haven. Politicians are generally needy people, so maybe they just want to be liked by people whom they see as more important than their constituents - wealthy suburbanites.
Debora Burns (Registered User)
Debora Burns (Registered User)
Tree Hugger 2011 (Registered User)
Debora Burns (Registered User)
Jackie (Guest)
Tree Hugger 2011 (Registered User)
Debora Burns (Registered User)
Tree Hugger 2011 (Registered User)
Debora Burns (Registered User)
Doug Hausladen (Registered User)
I just spoke with Lt Sweeney of NHPD. She has placed one of her officers at the location between calls for service for the next few days.
Additionally, I am asking the Department of Transportation Traffic & Parking for a crossing guard until the new in-street pedestrian road signs are delivered next week.
Would anyone like to help propose ideas for solutions for the intersection using the city's Complete Streets Design Manual: http://www.cityofnewhaven.com/Engineering/pdfs/CS-Project%20Request%20Form.pdf
I would be happy to get together with anyone interested at Koffee and put it together. The city asks for any projects to be proposed in this manner so that they can do the appropriate follow-up.
Best,
Doug Hausladen
Alderman
Ward 7
203-309-2737
doug@dougward7.com
Doug Hausladen (Registered User)
I just spoke again with TT&P department, and there will be an in-street pedestrian road sign placed into the road today around 1pm. This should calm some of the traffic speeds - and hopefully the additional police presence will help.
I'll make a point of stopping by the area the next 3 weeks and calling police if there are double-parkers that are causing any visibility issues.
I would like to submit a project request form, but will need some community input/help putting it together. Please email me if you would like to get together and work on this - doug@dougward7.com
Best,
Doug
Doug Hausladen (Registered User)
From TT&P:
an old in-road sign will be placed there today - until the new ones come in
we are having the parks department trim the trees around the intersection
we will be remarking the crosswalks on Orange as soon as weather allows
we will also be marking STOP before the new textured crosswalk that was installed on Audobon last year
Thank you TT&P for your fast response today -
Doug
Debora Burns (Registered User)
jackie (Guest)
Audubon Resident (Guest)
Closed Department of Transportation, Traffic and Parking (Registered User)