I agree. These drivers need to slow down.

I actually haven't noticed them zooming around as much lately. I wonder if someone has their eye on this site.

consider it closed then.

I forwarded this complaint to the Yale pd.

So glad this issue was posted. I live on Livingston St and they speed all the time. It's really dangerous.

I walk the dog in the neighborhood, and often see this behavior. I can't remember if I have seen it in the last couple nights, but it has been a concern.

If you send in the bus # and time to Yale (donald.relihan@yale or david.relihan@yale... can't remember) then they will address it with the driver. The speeding is unacceptable.

I have noticed they have slowed down for the most part. I did see the bus a couple weeks ago around 6 p.m. absolutely flying up toward Orange, still leaning on the gas pedal about ten houses away from the top of the street. But that might have been an isolated incident.

doing alrigiht on this one ... each driver is different

I have seen Yale shuttles doing at least 45 mph on Humphrey Street. It's not just a safety issue -- my whole house rattles.

we need GPS tracking of the shuttles so that they never exceed the 25MPH limit. also , to be honest, speed limits should be about 15 or 20 MPH on most of these roads like they are in all residential zones in many parts of europe. and then the shuttles need to follow that limit.

PS also needed for CT Transit, they are bad too.

i wish they would drive faster and get out of my way. or at least pull over to the side of the road to let other drivers go around.

This is a serious problem, but our comments seem like so much tongue-clucking.

Any way we can get some action?!

Actually Yale shuttles DO have GPS and are tracked on their routes. So Yale should full well have logs of the speeds of their shuttles.
http://yale.transloc.com/

The vehicles never stop at stop signs. I watched one stop sign in front of my house the other night and the Yale shuttle didn't stop a single time. Can the police get out there and ticket this?

So let's take action. I will personally order a large pizza for anyone who can catch a Yale bus speeding on video and post the YouTube link on this string.

Next best is recording the date/time/location of the incident and reporting it, as well as posting it here.

I have a friend that was hit by a Yale bus. Yale tried to ruin his life when a suit was filed.

Make sure they don't have unreasonable pick up time frames.. And i'm so glad that they don't park in front of my abode anymore, they leave it running and fumes permeat the dwelling,they sit with a buddy lollygagging the nite away. I never understood the need for giant beheemoths to be storming about empty and then pick up a terrified middle aged lady who ages a dozen years when dropped off, i guess they save money by using the same day bus for nite p/ups.
I also overhear folks saying the Transit is always hiring, i wonder if something else is afoot there , like a turnover rate for cost saving (med/pension)
Union trying to save the position for an in-law or incarcerated relat.who will be out soon

The University has a brutal Corporation counsel Attorneys office that acts worse than the City of New Haven ,overreactionary little kids - they were supposed to address the doings / actions / and overall bad behaviour from the Unions and their ilk

They're bold and cocky due to the corrupt judicial branch, Their steering of Legal work on campus to a local law firm with major connections , connections win the day in court , not right or wrong.
They assault people with just an inkling of suits , i've seen that at Yale NH Hospital also.
They expect and get political favors
So stand back thee ,bow to the blue

If everyone is still getting nowhere, try contacting the bus co directly it is new haven bus and they are on front ave in west haven good luck

I like to drive fast. That's just how I roll

We witnessed a Yale shuttle speeding up Livingston Street, headed towards Edwards Street, at about 10:20PM on Friday night. The driver was driving about 40MPH. Tried to catch the number, saw a "30" on the back left side of the bus. (Eddie, next time we'll try harder to catch this on tape, we want that pizza! :)

Nice Eddie - I'll pitch in with a large gift certificate to a local liquor store to anyone who does the same. Pizza and cold beer, what could be better?

Please catch them on tape - and TERMINATE their employ immediately, can't have this type of dangerous behaviour in our community.
Time and time again we see hundreds of posts , people complaining and warning , the answers are as such "before someone gets killed" - well another person got killed.
After the Yale Med student got nailed at So.Frontage and a few students witnessed cars beating the light ,they asked a cop why he did'nt ticket the violator, the cop replied, there was nothing he can do - bull, they have motorcycles and do a heck of a job on old ladies on Whitney near Hamden , and a few other locales in the town

Please don't encourage any more boozing in the East Rock area , some have the sense not to drive ,some attempt to ride a bike while crocked, most can barely make it to the recyclin bin out front to throw another one in

I feel badly calling this dude out, but 57cm71 (a yale suv) blew the red at Orange/edwards as a few of us rode back from our monthly ECC meeting.

Yale already has GPS in these things. It's time to put money where the mouth is & start monitoring.

the sheer level of lawless behavior & inappropriate driving I've seen from these vehicles is ridiculous. They think they are above the law, and Yale encourages them (and it's students) to live in some gated community where they need to be shuttled from downtown to EDWARDS street for crying out loud, at 9pm on a Monday night.

Where's the apizza from? You might be able to nail them at the speed sign on State Street. You are more likely to get a city bus at that speed sign first though.

I think the pizza should be from Sally's. If nobody nails this reward soon I'm going to be out there with a video camera too. I agree with Streever.

Pizza's probably from Modern, since it's around the corner from my house.

I vote Modern. You can use the speed sign on Upper State and march right down to Modern.

I can't believe nobody has done that yet. All you need is a digital camera and a few incriminating shots.

I would be so happy to claim the reward, but it's hard to catch one of these things on camera--they tend to be a surprise!

The same problem with the Yale bus occurs on Greene Street, right opposite Wooster Square. It's worse after dark.

I'll get a Sally's pizza for anyone posting a Wooster Square violator.

oh no - now I have to sleep on the front lawn with a camera. ;)

It's "pedal to the metal," not "pedal to the medal."

Nobody's taken me up on the offer of a Sally's Pizza? Is this New Haven?

We've made a formal call to the Yale Police about this issue. If there are GPS records that we can look at we might make some progress on this issue!!

I've asked that a memo go to all drivers of Yale Transit so they are on notice that speeding is illegal / unacceptable / grounds for termination!

If they stop speeding...We should have a See Click Fix Pizza party!! I vote that all New Haven thin pizza be served....the way it should be....Brick oven goodness....New Haven Style.

We will post more comments when we hear back from the Yale PD about this Quality of life Issue.

Here is a photo to distract all from the speed of Yale Transit....Enjoy!

I love LCI! I have no idea who at LCI is LCI_WATCHER but you are my hero.

I am the LCI_WATCHER:

Evan Trachten
Acquisition & Disposition Coordinator
LCI
203.946.8373
etrachte@newhavenct.net

i posted this on one of the other many yale shutle threds:

i dont thnk these drivers understand that streets like mansfield are a shared space with many children, cyclists and pedestrians --- not just a conduit for vehicles to speed thru as fast as possible . i wish they would show some respect for tohers.

We spoke to the Yale Police and they are going to address this quality of life issue.

They hear "our complaints" and will be addressing them.

We have a call into the Transit Department at Yale and should be updated on Monday August 3, 2009.

We will post the highlights of our conversation.

Thank you See Click Fix-ers.....keep this thread alive with updates and good information.

So much for that response posted on the other thread about the yale buses. Last night, between 8-9pm (was in the middle of a movie, didn't notice time), one of those buses came through at such a high rate of speed my entire apartment rattled to the point where the bottle of water next to me fell over.

Once we get the Yale Shuttle buses to slow down, I'd like to work on the New Haven Public Works trucks.

I saw a big panel truck with city markings getting off the highway onto Humphrey Street yesterday afternoon, swerving around a car waiting to turn onto State (blasting his horn all the while), and then gunning it up Humphrey. I swear if I could have caught him I'd have put my bike lock through his window and punched him in the face.

There are families with kids living on my block. Next to Yale Shuttle buses, city trucks are the worst violators.

After seeing a Yale bus blow through a thoroughly red light going south on Whitney at Canner last night, even though the light at Willow was red and there were cars stopped just the other side of the intersection (so he wasn't going to get far). I followed him until I could get ahead of him, stopped my car so that he could not move the bus, and called the police. They never called back, and the driver denied it. Where is the response to this guy? I have a feeling it was the same one who didn't stop going down the Canner hill crossing St Ronan the previous day when I was running and in the intersection. Oh, so sorry, maniacal Yale Bus Driver, didn't mean to stop you for petty traffic rules that keep you from killing people.

I see these Yale shuttles in the daytime pretty well behaved, A lot of them are chock full of passengers.Anytime i see one of those buses at nite i might see one passenger on them - having the ride of their life too - one flag fun ,six flags way more fun ,like adventure
Maybe a tax issue or credit Yale is using,to use those at nite like that. It's a real nice service they are providing it's staff and grad students, but are they too terrified to use the service.Offering the ride on one hand and strongly deterring one from using it .They do have it if u dare
The police are probably hesitant to enforce the law as they don't want to offend the University ,plus it's probably their kid on the bus riding like the NightRider

to "G" @ 07/31/2009 at 05:51PM

Let me make sure I understand this... you called the NHPD, told them you were blocking a transit bus because he ran a red light and they said they'd call you back?

Okay... I think this is an even worse situation than the busses. When the police don't even respond to calls... especially one that can get violent quickly... then there's a major issue.

We spoke with Yale Transit about this issue. They are happy the public is reporting what is happening out in the streets of New Haven.

Please use this form to report unsafe driving habits. Please try to get a bus number # or a location and a time.

http://www.yale.edu/transportationoptions/feedback/index.html.

Please keep this thread alive and update it if you see good or bad driving by Yale Transit.

I saw a Yale Shuttle bus driving at the speed limit last night. This was nice and instantly improved my quality of life that evening. Thank you, Yale shuttle driver!

But seriously, when you guys speed, it really ruins the ambiance of this town.

Maybe the Yale students should learn to walk where they want to go, and not demand instant service from the Yale shuttle. The drivers are flogged if they are a minute late on the estimates the transit dispatch gives students. Expect realistic times for your free rides and maybe the shuttles will slow down.

If that's true, anonymous commenter, it seems that the schedules should all be readjusted assuming longer travel times and far slower travel speeds (and then those speeds should be enforced through some kind of speed monitoring system).

From an economic development, quality of life and public health perspective, there's absolutely no reason why vehicles like these should be traveling at more than 15 miles per hour anywhere within New Haven's central street grid.

Does Yale currently have a policy on the top speeds its drivers should go? If not, it needs to set one. Just because there is a posted speed limit doesn't mean that that is the ideal speed.

Tuesday evening, around 10pm, I was traveling Whitney from Hamden to New Haven. Along the route, about the area of Edwards Street, I was practically driven into the oncoming lane of traffic by a Yale Shuttle bus which was speeding, not only above the speed limit, but using both his AND the next lane as well. I believe the bus number was 27 - but I didn't report it because I can't be absolutely positive that was the number.

Scary moment.

The use of these buses should be encouraged, not threatened by these threads. They provide an essential function for the university, which is the central institution of the city. The bus drivers work long hours and shuttle thousands of people to and from school and work every day. They are also important energy reducing machines, and the Yale buses have already started shifting towards bio diesel fueled rides. The buses are loud because they are buses, and you all live in a city- deal with the noise.

The bus drivers are under a lot of pressure to adhere to a schedule while having to deal with people in a hurry and horrible downtown traffic. Instead of trying to get one bus driver fired with your video camera so you can eat pizza, go down to city hall and ask them how they are going to rectify the ongoing traffic logjams on Whitney avenue and orange street in the mornings.

To the best of my knowledge, nobody is trying to "threaten" the use of Yale shuttle buses.

I believe the only thing people are asking is that the bus drivers operate within the traffic laws and regulations that all of us have to drive. Is there some particular reason you are defending public transportation drivers who break speed laws and use more than one lane when driving?

It simply seems if these bus drivers are too harried and pressured to operate under unmanageable schedules, the schedules should be adjusted or more buses added.

I wouldn't expect other citizens to ignore dangerous driving because the operators are harried and pressured.

I doubt that anyone posting here is anti-bus. That's not the issue. The issue is that Yale buses in particular have a long and well chronicled history of driving too fast through residential neighborhoods, to the point where they are a public nuisance and a hazard.

Frankly, some of the Yale Shuttle Bus drivers should be fired. I have seen buses cruise down Humphrey Street at speeds approaching 50 miles an hour. Had I managed to get it on video, you can @#$% well bet I'd go public with it -- and I'd expect to see someone's job on the line. There are people on my street with young children.

I do have some sympathy for the drivers, but being behind schedule is no excuse for driving dangerously. I suspect the real culprit is management. Tight schedules translate to lower costs.

Feel free to depict us as a bunch of whiners, but the attention we've brought to this issue seems to be paying off. In the last few months I've noticed far fewer speeding shuttle buses, and I suspect the drivers are aware they're under scrutiny.

Agree with Eddie. This attention is absolutely paying off. Next step is to bring speeds down to 20 miles per hour - no reason to have speeds greater than that on any of New Haven's dense urban roads.

Tristan -- that secton of Whitney Avenue is a HUGE PROBLEM thanks to the city's decision to stripe 13 foot lanes there, instead of the 10-11 foot lanes used elsewhere on the avenue.

It seems that the city engineers don't understand the direct relationship between lane width and vehicular speed.

Believe the Yale buses have stopped speeding on Bishop.

Thanks Yale for respecting our neighborhoods.