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Myself and friends have been driven nuts but this traffic signal on Main Street which appears to exist for no good reason. It's at the driveway exit of Bank of America and turns red every minute or two stopping Main Street traffic.
I could perhaps understand if this light ONLY turned red when someone was trying to exit the bank because making a left hand turn down Main Street there could be dangerous without being given right of way. However, this light has no sensor on it and simply stops Main Street all day and night and 90% of the time no one is waiting to exit the bank.
It is not needed for the small section of road next to Spector Furniture across from the bank because that is a one-way (Tremont?) and you can very easily make a left turn when heading towards Big Y without need for any signal like at so many intersections.
Has anyone looked into this? One would think city employees who have had to stop at this light for no reason or years before the bank is even open would inquire.
Leave the light, but at least install a sensor so it only goes red if someone needs to safely exit the bank parking lot. That would improve traffic flow in this area greatly.
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Bob Guy (Registered User)
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me (Guest)
I reported this issue here over two years ago (161458). You can see what type of action it got. I also sent a letter to the previous administration on it, was told they would look into it, but no sign that anything was ever done. Also, there was a third posting here on this (762469) that was closed, for some reason (certainly not because it was fixed). So that's where this one stands.
I will send the letter again, this time to the new administration; we'll see if they are really interested in making changes to business as usual around here. I recommend that you and your friends do the same. It IS possible to get City Hall to do things, if people take the time to let them know.
Michael Raymond (Registered User)
Thanks,
I agree with Bob. Upon reflection I recall using that bank a few times and when I went to pull out of the lot the light DID turn green for me a few seconds after I pulled up to it. That could mean the signal DOES have a sensor to tell when someone needs to exit the bank but for some reason the light turns red for main street on it's own every couple minutes for no reason.
All they need to do it set it so it only gives the bank exit a green when someone is waiting for 10 seconds so a few cars can exit. There is no other reason that light should ever stop Main Street traffic.
SeanoVFR (Registered User)
Just programming the light to change every X number of minutes is probably very inexpensive.
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Ryan Healey (Registered User)
No, stopping Main Street at that intersection every 2 minutes or so so MAYBE a car can exit a bank once in a while and MAYBE someone may want to cross is not a good enough reason for the current situation.
The light seems to have a sensor as it turns the light red when someone wants to exit the bank. The problem is it continues to go red every few minutes even when no one is waiting. Seems like an adjustment.
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Bob Guy (Registered User)
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Michael Raymond (Registered User)
Bob, here is the problem. It's 2014... the valley has changed greatly. There are TONS of people living in Ansonia that did not grow up here. When I say "Who is your alderman?" they have NO IDEA. In fact, they have no idea what a "ward" is. I am from another part of the state originally and none of the cities in that area have wards and few have alderman.
Is there a map anywhere online people can look at to tell what "ward" they house happens to be sitting in, who to call and a link to that person's e-mail since at this time all alderman should be available via e-mail.
The ward/alderman system is just not familiar to many... so they come here. Maybe if you grew up in Ansonia and know the system better but most don't.
Planner (Registered User)
There doesn't seem to be a need for the original programming which was for a 2-way Tremont Street.
Pedestrians do, however, need a phase at this intersection. Remember, pedestrians have the right-of-way before vehicles on all roads. That is the law. Because of this, the sight-line distance from the south is not sufficient to completely eliminate the signal, which does prevent speeding cars from maintaining a high rate of speed, particularly if they catch the preceding signal in green phase. Ped cycles shut down all directions for a 20 second period to allow the elderly and disabled sufficient time to cross. It appears that there is also a sensor for the bank exit, again because there are insufficient sightlines to allow traffic to enter RT115 in an unsignalized condition. 10-15 seconds may be enough for this phase but this older signal may not accommodate varied phase lengths. If it is possible they should probably eliminate the timed cycle and just use the pedestrian or vehicle-activated phases (this may not be possible because of its age).
Total replacement of the signal and timing devices could cost as much as $200,000 for signal equipment with ped phases. This signal equipment is city-owned.
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Michael Raymond (Registered User)
Planner,
I think you may have hit the nail on the head in your response.
"There doesn't seem to be a need for the original programming which was for a 2-way Tremont Street."
That would explain why the signals DOES seem to have a sensor to give right of way to those who want to exit the bank but continues to go red on it's own all day and night stopping Main for nothing.
If it indeed has a sensor for the bank and INCORRECTLY is still programmed for 2-way traffic on Tremont that would explain everything. Of course, if Tremont was still two way there the signal would make sense. However, it seems Tremont was made one-way and the signal was not reprogrammed so it's turning red to let people enter Main from Tremont, which no longer occurs.
Now how do we get if fixed? Anyone had a toolbox and ladder? LOL
Bob Guy (Registered User)
Sheesh (Guest)
"Total replacement of the signal and timing devices could cost as much as $200,000 for signal equipment with ped phases. This signal equipment is city-owned."
I bet O'Brien Tech could do it for under $10000 - lol. No wonder our taxes are sky-high.
Michael Raymond (Registered User)
Hey Bob Guy,
It's 2014. The reason things don't get accomplished in small cities and towns is because of the "old fashioned way" of doing business. ONE resident picks up the phone, they call City hall or in this antiquated case, their AlderPERSON and mention it to them. The phone gets put down and nothing is EVER going to happen unless MANY calls are received on the same topic.
In addition, no one else in town knows someone has filed a complaint. The City and Alderperson are not held accountable for the complaint because the are busy and one call does not mean it's a problem.
On the web (such as this site) we can all see what problems exist, we can discuss them, post what we spot and the city can easily see what is troubling residents. Some will be nonsense, many will indeed require review.
While I am sure the Cities don't want to post response here I have seen several things reported fixed so clearly it's being read by those who can take action.
Unless Derby, Ansonia and Seymour (among others) want to create public comment areas on their web sites that can be read by others and become a forum for community conversation, this site will continue to be that venue. The solution is easy:
1. Monitor this site as a city/town to see what is troubling residents and discuss top issues at meetings for action.
2. Create another online vehicle for residents to use.
Most people work full time jobs. In fact, both in a household do. To take time off from work at a break to call an Anderperson is something most can't find time to do so problems remain unreported.
Back to the topic of this thread, the signal does not need replacing. It clearly is just not re-programmed for one way traffic on Tremont and should be re-set to only turn red for those who wish to exit the bank or pedestrians who wish to cross.
The question now is how soon can it be reprogrammed?
Bob Guy (Registered User)
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Ryan Healey (Registered User)
Bob Guy,
Please, it would take ONE person at City hall perhaps a half hour at the end of each workday to look at incoming e-mails (assuming they are setup to be notified of new posts) and forward to the proper departments.
The residents have CLEARLY decided this site needs to be part of the reporting structure for problems. I know conversations go off course and there is some sniping, but that happens on every forum. Just focus on the reported problem and when people see things being resolved... the peanut gallery will die down.
Ryan Healey (Registered User)
BeenThereDoneThat,
You made an excellent point. Whoever designed and setup the lights that start and Healey Ford and go to Bank of America needs to sit down and give it a second thought. You are stopped at Healey Ford for exiting traffic, then stopped again a block later where Valley Lighting is, then stopped again for Target with the newest addition to the signals (which I realize was needed) then let's stop you again for Big Y (why the intersection could not be redesigned to Target and Big Y existed at the same spot escapes me) and then you have the Bank of America light stopping you whenever it darn well feels like it for no known reason.
At least one light needs to be removed near Healey Ford (of course, a road may need to be closed since we have two with signals that lead to the same place) and the BofA light needs to only turn red when someone wants to exit the bank or cross as a pedestrian.
Those tweaks would save a great deal of time. To be stopped 5 times in 1/2 mile is nuts!
BeenThereDoneThat (Guest)
The Valley Lighting light is a waste. I don't mind the light at Healey Ford. The Target light should be the same length as the bank light (which needs to be longer).
Bob Guy (Registered User)
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Michael Raymond (Registered User)
Thanks Bob!
I trust via these posts Ansonia is working on a request to the state traffic engineer to review all five signals that are of concern in this post, the Bank of America on being the most troubling.
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